Patch Notes 17/09/2026
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Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
Should there be a dps version of the Warboss's Skull event accessory for the DoK?
Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
TextLogGetEntry for the most recently added entry is O(1) instead of O(n) and channel 9 text is only delivered to Lua handlers and then dropped, so it isn't sharing the 2048 slots that other lines live in.Caffeine wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2026 12:11 pmCould someone with technical knowledge expand on this? Curious to know the details on what changed.ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2026 1:49 pm - Channel 9 addon text is delivered faster to addons and no longer competes for your chat log buffer.
Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
I obviously don't want it. Read again pleaseSulorie wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2026 12:35 pmWhy do you want a heal debuff? Want to 1vs1 healers? In a group fight where your enemy has heals, someone else in your team will provide the hd.Kanser wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2026 5:45 pm
You obviously cannot read. Try again please. A dps which doesn't have a heal debuff cannot be a top dps.
Anyways, the only thing I would like to get is the pre-rangedps state. It was way better. Just do it and let it go already
Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
In my opinion, an S tier DPS class ("top DPS") has to have a heal debuff. That's how the game works according to my point of viewBozzax wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 7:04 amThat condition isn’t enforced for other classes, archetypes or role defining abilities so why here?Sulorie wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2026 12:35 pmWhy do you want a heal debuff? Want to 1vs1 healers? In a group fight where your enemy has heals, someone else in your team will provide the hd.Kanser wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2026 5:45 pm
You obviously cannot read. Try again please. A dps which doesn't have a heal debuff cannot be a top dps.
Anyways, the only thing I would like to get is the pre-rangedps state. It was way better. Just do it and let it go already
I don't think there was an S tier DPS class on Order side before the latest patch. Enginier had unstackable aoe and no heal debuff as well as low survivability in ST. All other DPS classes also had their weak spots.
That's pretty much all I expressed.
Anyways, right now the state of Enginier looks worse than it was before the rdps patch. Which already was far from being overpowered. If that was the initial goal - well done
Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
[item][/item]As a few already have stated , engi is once again in a poor state. I don’t care about the dmg nerfs or lover % dmg increase on coordinated fire tactic. What truly kills the game flow is the 10sec cd on signal flare. Same for magus but it’s harsher for engi.
The class once again feels clunky, if you wanna play ST you need 2 dots on 100feet to be able to setup a half decent pressure. The grenade dots are 2 weak for that, and it’s mid range only. Using 1 dot and trying to kill somthing semi coordinated or decent skilled opponent won’t cut it.
Nerf the dmg ( as you already did) is fine
Nerf 10% dmg increase ( party only now) is fine
But don’t put a 10 sec cd on the mandatory dot for ST dig builds. It totally kills all playstyles involving engi in ST ( grenade surf zerger rr trolling still works)
Revert or kill the class in st specs once again.
The class once again feels clunky, if you wanna play ST you need 2 dots on 100feet to be able to setup a half decent pressure. The grenade dots are 2 weak for that, and it’s mid range only. Using 1 dot and trying to kill somthing semi coordinated or decent skilled opponent won’t cut it.
Nerf the dmg ( as you already did) is fine
Nerf 10% dmg increase ( party only now) is fine
But don’t put a 10 sec cd on the mandatory dot for ST dig builds. It totally kills all playstyles involving engi in ST ( grenade surf zerger rr trolling still works)
Revert or kill the class in st specs once again.
Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
I believe pre-patch it was 20s and defendable with a higher damage buff (to everyone?)Tetzou wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 7:12 pm [item][/item]As a few already have stated , engi is once again in a poor state. I don’t care about the dmg nerfs or lover % dmg increase on coordinated fire tactic. What truly kills the game flow is the 10sec cd on signal flare. Same for magus but it’s harsher for engi.
The class once again feels clunky, if you wanna play ST you need 2 dots on 100feet to be able to setup a half decent pressure. The grenade dots are 2 weak for that, and it’s mid range only. Using 1 dot and trying to kill somthing semi coordinated or decent skilled opponent won’t cut it.
Nerf the dmg ( as you already did) is fine
Nerf 10% dmg increase ( party only now) is fine
But don’t put a 10 sec cd on the mandatory dot for ST dig builds. It totally kills all playstyles involving engi in ST ( grenade surf zerger rr trolling still works)
Revert or kill the class in st specs once again.
Then they made it no CD, undefendable with lower damage buff but to everyone.
Now it is 10s, undefendable with lower damage buff but only for your group.
MEANWHILE, every class in the game is easier to hit for rdps b/c of the d/d changes.
So what's the problem?
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Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
Thanks. I suspected it wasn't going to be worth specn again.fatelvis wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2026 6:39 amIt's a mixed bag of buff (sigmars vision), insignificance (minor base heal and life tap increases) and nerf (DA decreased life tap for minor debuffable heal proc increase).Illuminati wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2026 8:52 pm How is shield healing after the patch? Looks like a pretty big buff to it by not only improving the healing, but to systematically nerf armor and defenses of classes that have made it more effective.
Not sure about the significance of thechanged Dok tactic, the increase on WP tactic doesn't cut it, though.
Ugh - basically, decisions (not technical challenges) have turned our fun to not fun for All now...
Decisions:
-Melee heals suffer heal debuffs (instead of simply modifying multiplier and making the ability undefendable with some chain effect)
-Weapon Skill doesn't contribute to Parry (instead of making the contribution .5 or .25)
-Melee channels are cone, can be easily LOS by jumping (instead of dozen other options)
-Melee is much more difficult to play than ranged because of positioning/cc, giving ranged too hard to catch (instead or limiting snares and snare removal to melee characters)
-Removing heal debuffs from multiple characters or making them ability based
-Removing speed buffs, making melee play in sludge (instead of reducing the duration of any snare by ranged considerably)
-Increasing the GCD while not adjusting cast times or adding cast times to ranged abilities
-Reducing the effectiveness of 2H tanks in both damage (Chosen is -30% damage compared to live) and defense
-Giving Slayer / Choppa -25% armor in Yellow (instead of increasing their survivability in yellow and given the class a skill ceiling)
-Removing NB without simplifying the abilities that required melee to be behind target or execution like abilities (instead of removing abilities with broken conditions, instead of simply combining those abiliites and modifying the damage multiplier). Ugh LUA coding with Co-Pilot being used by some newbs
-Destroying solo play for melee
-Killing a tree for melee healers and creating a spec that is unusable in >75% of the game's content
-Killing the campagin with War Crests (insead of simply using War Crests for everything before SOV)
-Removing guards from BOs so Ranged Heals can't bait BO flips and murder melee going to flip back
Meanwhile,
-Game runs awesome and the latest changes make the game incredibly crisp
-Dungeons and the PVE side 100% better THAN live
-Tooling, etc. and the Ability DB tremendous achievements
So... just change some of the decisions =)
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Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
SW had its attack, defense, and range all nerfed in the last patch without any other improvements, and now its attack power has been reduced by another 15% (25% above 65ft). The developers really seem to enjoy demotivating players.
Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
Order has a lot of ranged classes because MDPS slayers haven't been adjusted, WLs have been weakened, and Lions are difficult to use. So ranged classes have been drastically weakened. If you play SC, you'll know that Order is full of ranged classes and it's not even a fair fight. Do the developers have some kind of grudge against Order?
Re: Patch Notes 17/09/2026
SL - very good 2h and dualponko22 wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2026 7:36 am Order has a lot of ranged classes because MDPS slayers haven't been adjusted, WLs have been weakened, and Lions are difficult to use. So ranged classes have been drastically weakened. If you play SC, you'll know that Order is full of ranged classes and it's not even a fair fight. Do the developers have some kind of grudge against Order?
WL - great ST and aoe
WH - behind the others mdps
SW - op
BW - solid
Engi - very good, in good hands deadly (even after last patch
If ppl complain for me its skill issue (except wh)
80+ | Chosen | BG | BO | Knight | IB | Choppa | Zealot | DoK | Shaman | AM | RP | WP |
40+ | SM | SL | Engi | Mara |
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