Revert surrender changes

[Feodorovna]

1- remove or change the 4min30 timer limit -> atleast make it 8-9min
2- remove the "winning team can't surrend" -> we are just hostage of that one guy back capping while team is farmed at spawn

It serves no purpose than wasting everyone time. Let us move on if scenario is trash. People are still free to vote no if they absolutely want to play obj for some reason.

[Stuartyce]

1- remove or change the 4min30 timer limit -> atleast make it 8-9min
2- remove the "winning team can't surrend" -> we are just hostage of that one guy back capping while team is farmed at spawn

It serves no purpose than wasting everyone time. Let us move on if scenario is trash. People are still free to vote no if they absolutely want to play obj for some reason.

I completely agree with removing the restriction that prevents the winning team from surrendering. Maybe setting the surrender timer to scale based on the point difference rather than a fixed limit could balance early forfeits with avoiding hopeless spawn camps?

[Aluviya]

1- remove or change the 4min30 timer limit -> atleast make it 8-9min
2- remove the "winning team can't surrend" -> we are just hostage of that one guy back capping while team is farmed at spawn

It serves no purpose than wasting everyone time. Let us move on if scenario is trash. People are still free to vote no if they absolutely want to play obj for some reason.

100%

[coldhunter]

No! If devs will change that back, how poor premades will farm they kills then?! Are you dont have heart?!

[abezverkhiy]

1- remove or change the 4min30 timer limit -> atleast make it 8-9min
2- remove the "winning team can't surrend" -> we are just hostage of that one guy back capping while team is farmed at spawn

It serves no purpose than wasting everyone time. Let us move on if scenario is trash. People are still free to vote no if they absolutely want to play obj for some reason.

Ahaha! You are complaining mate? I am happy to see that.

[Delerium69]

Just remove the timer. If its a fruitless scenario then why force people to play it. If you still want it to go the duration, allow players to exit the scenario without penalty. Everyones a winner.

[gisborne]

I don't miss surrender at all. Instead they should look at adjusting scenarios that take forever, even when you're stomping (Khaine's Embrace, I'm looking at you).

[kleinbuchstabe]

1- remove or change the 4min30 timer limit -> atleast make it 8-9min
2- remove the "winning team can't surrend" -> we are just hostage of that one guy back capping while team is farmed at spawn

It serves no purpose than wasting everyone time. Let us move on if scenario is trash. People are still free to vote no if they absolutely want to play obj for some reason.

+1

[Lescargo]

The degeneration is such that players ask to surrender even when they're winning simply because they're incapable of playing the scenario correctly.

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen players under tunnel vision trying to fight head-on and being farmed, ignoring the chance to escape on the flanks, back-cap, and then maybe turn the tide of the match.

But people are incredibly stupid; they see red—a warrior with a shield—and just wail on him like mindless mobs focusing the tank in a dungeon.

Thank goodness the devs don't listen to the mobs.

Personally, I’ve never initiated a surrender vote; if you’ve done it more than ten times and still do it regularly, then you’re almost certainly one of the reasons why these scenarios are such a disaster.

You can’t win anything with that kind of loser mentality. If you’ve reached such a level of frustration and negativity, you’re better off quitting the scenario and come back later, rather than constantly queuing up for matches and spamming surrender votes at the slightest sign of trouble.

[normanis]

hm why premades dont fight vs premades???? cant believe they whant fight pugs because its easer. easy rr /crests.
if premades fight vs premades like suhariki video u can clearly seen how much kills they have 1-2 max.