How does that even make sense? Skirmish used to be the AOE spec for SWs on Order side while it is mSHs on Destro side. Go try SW and SH AOE builds on the PTS and you will see how big of a difference there is.Keula wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:37 pm Yea the spec is nerfed and ST skirmish is now mirrored to SH, but at least complain about things that are real and not imaginary stuff.
[PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
mSH should be stronger, its 100% melee.lumpi33 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:47 pmHow does that even make sense? Skirmish used to be the AOE spec for SWs on Order side while it is mSHs on Destro side. Go try SW and SH AOE builds on the PTS and you will see how big of a difference there is.Keula wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:37 pm Yea the spec is nerfed and ST skirmish is now mirrored to SH, but at least complain about things that are real and not imaginary stuff.
Like aSW should be stronger than rSH damage/burst wise.
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
I meant crit damage, not chance. My bad.Keula wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:37 pmPls explain how they nerfed specifically AOE SW range and crit CHANCE. Like do ppl even read the notes at all? Yea the spec is nerfed and ST skirmish is now mirrored to SH, but at least complain about things that are real and not imaginary stuff.rorswar wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 3:13 pm Yeah, it's a bit of a stretch. As a RR85 SW main:
- I think the AOE Skirmish nerf is likely too much. They nerfed range AND damage AND armour pen AND crit chance.
- I think ST Skirmish got nerfed as an innocent bystander, and there was no need for that.
“ Steady Aim: Now only affects your offensive target (meaning if you use an AoE attack, only your offensive target will take an additional 25% critical damage).”
On range:
“ - Broadhead Arrow: Range reduced from 100 to 65 feet.
- Spiral-Fletched Arrow: Range reduced from 100 to 65 feet.”
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
What do you mean "used to be"? It still is. The skirmish ST reference is that the skirmish SW ST abilities are now mirrored to SH ST skirmish abilities, which you know makes sense in a way, even if it is nerf to scout ST to have 65ft broadhead now, which idk if that was really needed.lumpi33 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:47 pmHow does that even make sense? Skirmish used to be the AOE spec for SWs on Order side while it is mSHs on Destro side. Go try SW and SH AOE builds on the PTS and you will see how big of a difference there is.Keula wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:37 pm Yea the spec is nerfed and ST skirmish is now mirrored to SH, but at least complain about things that are real and not imaginary stuff.
The complain part is is mainly referencing the part you didn't quote which is the person before complaining about AOE SW losing range and crit chance, neither of those things happened, now corrected to mean crit dmg isntad of crit chance, which did happen
Also Squig AOE spec is not ranged, and I acknowledged that AOE SW is nerfed, is it deserved? idk, maybe, I don't play at that much or at that high of level to know if it was op or not. The extra -10% on split arrows seems a bit much for me on the surface, since both affected abilites also lost the armour pen and extra aoe crit dmg. If broadhead gained armour pen via keen arrowheads now I could maybe see it, but it didn't so it's a bit harsh. New range tactic is a bit awkward cause it doesn't affect barrage or lileaths, so idk if any1 is ever gonna use it over keen arrowheads.
Ok that they did lose, good to correct it
Your point was about AOE skirmish. Split arrows already reduces the range to 65ft so the range nerf does nothing for the AOE spec, it's an ST nerf.rorswar wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 9:08 pm On range:
“ - Broadhead Arrow: Range reduced from 100 to 65 feet.
- Spiral-Fletched Arrow: Range reduced from 100 to 65 feet.”
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
I think this will be the case for many. SW numbers will drop. SWs that remain will be pushed to the peripheryagemennon675 wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:14 pmMost SW mains are happy or indifferent to the changes? Personally too burned out by nerfs the class received over the years, the class is a clunky mess going to be even worse after the patch, no point arguing about it, I will just shelf it and play something else that is easier and perform better with less effort
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First Slayer and now SW nerfed. WL was nerfed but is still holding on.
Order’s list of AoE DPS is growing thin. Good thing the devs are out of “reworks.”
Order’s list of AoE DPS is growing thin. Good thing the devs are out of “reworks.”
Brynnoth Goldenbeard (40/80) (IB) -- Rundin Fireheart (40/50) (RP) -- Ungrinn (40/40) (Engi)-- Bramm Bloodaxe (40/83) (Slayer) and a few Empire characters here or there, maybe even an elf.
Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
Ooh give them some credit, they may be out of reworks, but they can find some "tweaks", I have trust in the Devs to nerf us even moreCountTalabecland wrote: Tue Aug 04, 2026 3:45 am First Slayer and now SW nerfed. WL was nerfed but is still holding on.
Order’s list of AoE DPS is growing thin. Good thing the devs are out of “reworks.”
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Re: [PTS] Patch Notes 23/07/2026 - RDPS Patch and New Scenario Mechanic
I´m still waiting for the engi buff. If it stays like this on PTS server, there is not really an improvement. There are so many good suggestions in the feedback. I hope they take it into consideration.
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Buff? They are nerfing it now. Where did you find a buff?
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That´s exactly what i meant
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