Proposed WH changes

[Hienzwar]

Order will be nothing but shadow warriors at this rate.

Bro, have you seen the nerfs to SW?

Fester bomb is gone. Skirmish nerfed hard in AOE, and ST hit as an innocent bystander. Assault, lost 2x armour and other defenses, but unsure how it’ll stack up in total as it’s got so many changes. Bonuses to stances changed, often not in a beneficial way.

SH on the other hand remains as strong as is, with one of the largest tool boxes in the game.

WE nerfs are nothing in comparison. If you think order will just be SWs, I got a bridge to sell you.

Bro

SW or WH for wb?

The tool kit for SW vs wh is ridiculous, wh is one of the most one dimensional classes in game.

I'm sorry the lack of SH nerf hurts, agree it's ridiculous.

You fully missed my sarcasm but it's okay. Maybe reread patch notes where it's stated solo classes do not matter at all to a group game.

[abezverkhiy]

Out of curiosity I checked how far WH can run in stealth on PTS

- you can run half distance from Praag WC to MS BO
- you cannot run from outer postern into the oil room (tested in Garrison of Skulls)
- you can run from inner postern to the 3rd floor of the keep without stopping and looking around and there will be 7 seconds left of Incognito

Not much.

[Hienzwar]

Out of curiosity I checked how far WH can run in stealth on PTS

- you can run half distance from Praag WC to MS BO
- you cannot run from outer postern into the oil room (tested in Garrison of Skulls)
- you can run from inner postern to the 3rd floor of the keep without stopping and looking around and there will be 7 seconds left of Incognito

Not much.

More to the point there is no way you are getting through a guarded postern while aoe is being thrown about.

[abezverkhiy]

Out of curiosity I checked how far WH can run in stealth on PTS

- you can run half distance from Praag WC to MS BO
- you cannot run from outer postern into the oil room (tested in Garrison of Skulls)
- you can run from inner postern to the 3rd floor of the keep without stopping and looking around and there will be 7 seconds left of Incognito

Not much.

More to the point there is no way you are getting through a guarded postern while aoe is being thrown about.

See? Devs are working tirelessly to make us useful in large scale PvP, sieges in particular. They said so:
The priority of balancing in Return of Reckoning is set around group play, meaning any number from 6 all the way up to large scale fights in RvR.