Mooselager wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:21 pm
ismetto wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 7:05 pm
Bozzax wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 3:50 pm
We shouldn't overlook the impact of player skill differences in scenarios (SCs). More often than not, that's what decides the outcome. Right now, the player quality on the Order side is clearly higher than on Destro.
What can a player with an 80 Renown character do?
They finish their set and start working on a new alt.
They play their main in core groups and level alts when groups aren't available.
But then there are some clever ones who always flock to the currently overpowered or popular classes — like WP.
A seasoned Destro player messaged me:
"/w Puni, I got my WP to 60 in a week and already saved up close to 5K crests."
And they brag about it as if it's some great achievement.
I've been playing this game since 2008. I've only ever gone Order just for chat or fun — never to seriously develop a character there. That’s probably why no one ever heard of me on that side.
Because let’s be honest: the playstyle on Order is simply easier.
You don't need to be greedy — "I want this, I want that, I want it all, it should all be mine."
There are these cross-realm (Xrealm) players who just jump on whatever class is trending, and then walk around acting like they're top-tier players.
I believe faction switching should be limited — maybe once a month.
Right now it's just: jump to Destro, then jump to Order — wherever the advantage lies. This causes population imbalance and discourages players from trying to improve or adapt.
Of course, some will always take the easy path — but luckily, most still don’t.
One of the very few moments of sanity in this thread, thank you & you are 100% correct.
Ironic because the people attempting to discredit you are the ones being delusional themselves.
Of course there is some small anecdotal evidence to support these childish claims of theres, but if players are able to regularly level up faster & farm more crests quicker on one side than the other, its really not rocket science & just shows that these delusional people attacking you are either incredibly mentally challenged & require our support, or are they are just being 100% dishonest.
At this point I think its a 50/50 between either of those two.
I am sorry for the childish & inane rebutals you received from players who are acting in bad faith.
P.S: The Xrealming has become core to this game now & it'll never get better, this game would be legit a ghosttown if they enforced some lock to factions. After I came back from a hiatus, It seems like ALL destro guilds now also play order as well on their downtime.
It doesn't matter how they see me. I already know I'm a "nobody."
There are people who can't even tolerate my silence; some people cling to you like a barbed parasite—you just can't shake them off.
But I don't declare war on anyone. Time is valuable, and so are people.
I don't carry burdens in my mind or in my heart.
Now, to the point:
I'm not saying faction locks should be absolute. But I believe if the cooldown for switching sides was longer, players would be more likely to stay on one side for a meaningful amount of time.
Because right now, when things get difficult, instead of adapting or finding solutions, people just jump to the other side.
On the Destro side, forming a group has become nearly impossible. You log in with an RR80+ character and look for a group. If you're a tank or healer, you might have a chance to join certain established guild groups.
But if you're a solo DPS, building a group on your own is extremely difficult.
And even if you manage to form one, you'll often face 4 premade Order guild groups, while Destro might have 1 or 2 pug premades—sometimes +1 guild premade, or none at all.
The WL/WP combo is a perfect example of imbalance. WP is already a strong healer, but also an extremely dominant DPS. That alone highlights a serious design flaw.
So what are you supposed to play against a DPS WP? A DPS DoK? Then what—should we scrap every other DPS class and just turn the entire meta into WP vs. DoK?
If WP can be both a top-tier DPS and healer, then should tanks start healing too?
I don’t know, my friend… 0 + 0 = 0.
And yes, WL is a whole different topic of discussion these days.
After the 2008–2012 era, I stopped paying much attention to events, patches, and class changes. Those who know me know: I just log in, play, and log off.
But something shifted. Some decent decisions were made around RvR and it actually got more enjoyable.
Yet small-scale group balance got worse.
Right now, maybe the only viable choice left on the Destro side is WE.
When farming groups from Order switch over to Destro, they disappear after 1-2 or maybe 3 SCs. We see it all happening in front of us… and they know it too.
Stay kind. Stay sincere.
). And all i can do is giving the advice back to you. Make a destro char, and play against order during this WL plague going on. Preferably with a small scale setup, cause if you zerg down a 12man with 3 warbands, you can never get a feeling for it... Its neither crying nor bias that majority of destro is complaining about WL. There are reasons. Play it, feel it, you will get it.
