Just roll White lion Why bother (DPS)

[saiho]

They dont need nerf (wl) it's all the other dps that need buff. Since global cooldown change it nerf any kind of dmg since pet is extra dmg it makes alot of differance. They wont do it but bringing back old global cooldow would fix pretty much all the melee dps. If not you gota boost all their raw dps.

Ive been saying this for a long time, the GCD Changes unintentionally buff pet classes due to pets being a constant source of damage. Whereas classes without them are locked behind an artificial time counter. Also, heavily lowers skill expression because if you pop a GCD Close to when someone pops a channel ability, theyre guaranteed to get majority of their channel off before you can use interrupts or kds or CCs in general to counter those channels due to the long GCDs, it also makes it punishing to hit Detaunt due to the momentum lost from wasting a long GCD on a skill that effectively has no immediate impact like a high damaging ability and so on, the long GCD Change is ass

[saiho]

They dont need nerf (wl) it's all the other dps that need buff. Since global cooldown change it nerf any kind of dmg since pet is extra dmg it makes alot of differance. They wont do it but bringing back old global cooldow would fix pretty much all the melee dps. If not you gota boost all their raw dps.

absolutely not. if every other class gets up to WL levels of damage, i will never touch a healer again and i assure you it'll be the same for the few healers that are left after the heal patch.

Sounds like a skill issue I cant lie, healing numbers are stupidly high in this game already and if you have a semi competent healer you can take on the world, cant even begin to describe how many 2v5+s ive won with having a skilled healer next to me

[saiho]

They dont need nerf (wl) it's all the other dps that need buff. Since global cooldown change it nerf any kind of dmg since pet is extra dmg it makes alot of differance. They wont do it but bringing back old global cooldow would fix pretty much all the melee dps. If not you gota boost all their raw dps.

They probably will since they have nerf class paradigm currently and post like yours add to their vision of nerfing classes. WL mdps looks decent in comparison to the nerfed slayer, nerfed WH. WL in reality is inferior to how it used to be a few years ago.

The real reason many players left is because they have nerfed everything so much. Do you remember when BO had YOU Wot? When slayers were the reason every Destro came here to complain at least a few times a week. When WE was immortal in 1vs1 and could 1vs3 people easily? When Kotbs actually could make dps? When ASW was not a completely joke like today etc?

Well i guess devs can nerf WL to join the mediocre. This server will be known as nerf server.

P.S. Also your 1st post is wrong about one thing, Magus will defeat a WL 1vs1. Magi way better 1vs1 class than WL, except for crushing goblins .

Watch how it is done easily:
https://youtu.be/7OIXBpXzlwY?t=10

Also agree with this, been saying it for a long time Magus is arguably the best 1v1 class in the entire game

[hordak774]

nerf GCD it was biggest mistake they made, it was perfect 1.1 or something. Pots, snare breaks abilities should't be at global cooldown !! Game must be more dynamic and faster today its slow long fight especially in deftard specs 2-5 mins what is this ?!

[kleinbuchstabe]

+1 for reduce GCD
+1 for WL nerf
+1 for nerf single pull abilities generaly, like they did with choppa.
its an overpowered ability, no matter wich side or class got it.

[Illuminati]

I doubt they will reduce the GCD back to 1.15. It would be nice if all reactionary abilities, pots, morales, etc. would go off GCD again.

[Parallels66]

They dont need nerf (wl) it's all the other dps that need buff. Since global cooldown change it nerf any kind of dmg since pet is extra dmg it makes alot of differance. They wont do it but bringing back old global cooldow would fix pretty much all the melee dps. If not you gota boost all their raw dps.

absolutely not. if every other class gets up to WL levels of damage, i will never touch a healer again and i assure you it'll be the same for the few healers that are left after the heal patch.

Sounds like a skill issue I cant lie, healing numbers are stupidly high in this game already and if you have a semi competent healer you can take on the world, cant even begin to describe how many 2v5+s ive won with having a skilled healer next to me

LMAO i have full armor talis, 9k+ hp, -20% to be crit etc. WL still auto attacks me for 1200+. WL and 2h slayer are the only classes to be able to kill me in a 1v1. WL doesnt even have a heal debuff lmao. literally 100% uptime class. i get 100-20% hp in a single WL knockdown essentially in a full tank setup. WL is absurd. there is a reason everyone and their nan is playing one at the current. why WBs are stacking them, why every solo roam order you see is a WL. they counter every single class except 2h regen tanks and even then can just walk away. absolute meme class.

[Deadpoet]

Judging from his two posts in this thread Gorezog could be the dumbest member of this forum. The first one disqualifies Yoluigi complete because whine thread. the second one (something along the lines of -no explanation, just judgemenet- "that's even dumber") is... even dumber xD.

[Noslock]

absolutely not. if every other class gets up to WL levels of damage, i will never touch a healer again and i assure you it'll be the same for the few healers that are left after the heal patch.

Sounds like a skill issue I cant lie, healing numbers are stupidly high in this game already and if you have a semi competent healer you can take on the world, cant even begin to describe how many 2v5+s ive won with having a skilled healer next to me

LMAO i have full armor talis, 9k+ hp, -20% to be crit etc. WL still auto attacks me for 1200+. WL and 2h slayer are the only classes to be able to kill me in a 1v1. WL doesnt even have a heal debuff lmao. literally 100% uptime class. i get 100-20% hp in a single WL knockdown essentially in a full tank setup. WL is absurd. there is a reason everyone and their nan is playing one at the current. why WBs are stacking them, why every solo roam order you see is a WL. they counter every single class except 2h regen tanks and even then can just walk away. absolute meme class.

If a single wl can kill your tank 1v1 you r doing something wrong.

[Jastojan]

Hopefully DPS class change in the next year gonna change the meta because right now there no point rolling any melee class other than WL
Squig / shaman /magus / dps zeolot (70% of small scale is just those classes) pretty much all those destro class roll on order But if you got a White lion it counter everything. Goodluck getting perma snare snare and disarm it's just not fun at all. Same for WE I would just boost their DPS but less tanky. Right now i see sometime 1v3 WE. They cant even kill the godamn thing 550 absorb on crit with full trivial blow with regen it's just dumb. I preffer to die in 6 seconds than fighting for 2minutes soo they end up self punting and going away. The only thing you need on ORDER right now is High elf classes and 1 knight that is it. Dont bother with any other class like BW, Engi etc

On destro if you fight a WL you are F/$k With the range meta it beat all but not the WL.
Hopefully they spread class identity take make some class actualy fun and good other than just everyone rolling the only class that are decent. DPS need to do more dps overall and less defensive option right now it's alwas better to go more defensive no matter what for any melee dps. Like marauder's should nuke people with Impale you get what am getting at?

Hi guys,
I fully agree about the fact that WL is too much... The pull in combination with burst is insane. You cant hide or avoid the pull from the pet and when you are pulled then you are almost insta dead + on top of that WL is tanky. I would expect that such insane burst will come in much squishier form, but... nope.
In comparison slayers. They can deal decent DPS but they pay a price for it. They are not so tanky and not so popular in WBs anymore. And noone is surprised because WL can deal decent aoe dmg, so why not.
Todays WB lineup is all about WL and some BW. Thats all.

I would say OK, lets be it, if other DPSes are so strong too and have such a deadly combination of utilities + burst too. But nope, it is spreaded through the whole fractions. Not so cocentrated in one class only.

I am not fan of nerfs, so instead of it, lets buff other classes. Buff slayers, they should be much better dmg dealers (aoe especially) or melee shadow warriors or close combat engies. Buff melee squigs or maguses.

This situation about WL is so obvious.