Runepriest

[Fey]

Until someone with server admin status chimes in the claims of exploit ring hollow. If it is indeed an exploit we would expect the righteous fury of the ban hammer by now.

Morale drops have been obsolete for what, 3 years now? It fun to see niche set ups succeed in this nerfhammer era of the server.

[Florian90210]

Just compare ability with zealot's one "mirror". It's clearly RoB and other abilities like it have to be channeled and range of about 80ft, so opposite side can counterplay it or avoid.

[quda]

I reason like a person who knows this game. There has been no exploits, just creative usage of currently existing and working as intended mechanics. Is it cool to have such stealth on WH and RoB not breaking it is the other question and another discussion, we are not talking about it here if you didnt notice. Thats not the question actually raised here but rather "BURN THE WITCHES!!!!1". RoB has been like that for a very very long time. Even before recent RP reworks which made RoM no CD there has been lots of previously meme RP warbands, inb4 with SMs cause needed wings to bomb. Its just that scale of those warbands has been much smaller, they either had no such skilled leader, or badly geared and unprepared players etc.
Its PvP game, you learn mechanics of it and compete. Playing PvP game designed around players searching for most effecient ways of killing each other and not grasping it is dull to me. In PvP game if you dont know mechanics you lose, thats your problem. All this "healthiness" of community without jokes and banter i dont understand if we talk about PvP game, as banter is one the most driving parts of it. Has banter be moderated and respectful (not touching irl person)? Yes, surely. Should it not exist? No.

of course u cant understand ,cause you are delusional. Take a moment. You can't be unbiased, cause you've been here for a long time. The ones who act like “god” here are people like you. “I know the game I played a lot” and etc. You are not the only one “greatest” old player. But thats a shame, for you. Most of people dont care, but you made it public.

The using of “unbalanced” mechanics is very near to exploit. Or even an exploit. If destro would do such of a thing, those forums would shine brighter.

Its a shame how order cant admit that the way they played was disrespectful and toxic. It's about that people are not afraid of being banned.

Creativity? Maybe yes, but you need creativity to find an exploit, to find bugs. sometimes u req creativity to do bad things.

[kleinbuchstabe]

abuse game mechanincs = creative use of game mechanics

building a wb out of the abusing class = roleplay event

harassment = having fun

making fun of the harassed side = banter

getting farmed by abusive use of mechanics = own fault because of not knowing game mechanics


Just trying to help here with translation of vocabulary for both sides, for better communication and understanding. Sometimes the cultural differences between dominant superior master race players and the majority of average scum who imagine to "play" this game, could be big, resulting in misunderstandings. Youre welcome.

[quda]

abuse game mechanincs = creative use of game mechanics

building a wb out of the abusing class = roleplay event

harassment = having fun

making fun of the harassed side = banter

getting farmed by abusive use of mechanics = own fault because of not knowing game mechanics


Just trying to help here with translation of vocabulary for both sides, for better communication and understanding. Sometimes the cultural differences between dominant superior master race players and the majority of average scum who imagine to "play" this game, could be big, resulting in misunderstandings. Youre welcome.

Hahahahahahah good translation. Agreed. And it spreads even in game chats.

[Neznan]

Its a shame how order cant admit that the way they played was disrespectful and toxic. It's about that people are not afraid of being banned.

You forget to mention that they have Stream it and laughing towards opponents.
Not sure how it works here (because I am kind new player), but seems they are very sure they will not get any punishment for their Toxic behavor.

[ASmellyMan]

The solution seems to be giving the zealot a similar ability.

Actually since the classes aren't supposed to be exact mirrors maybe the Shammy can do it instead. That way I can farm renown even faster!

You can't stop me from running solo devs

[nocturnalguest]

abuse game mechanincs = creative use of game mechanics

building a wb out of the abusing class = roleplay event

harassment = having fun

making fun of the harassed side = banter

getting farmed by abusive use of mechanics = own fault because of not knowing game mechanics


Just trying to help here with translation of vocabulary for both sides, for better communication and understanding. Sometimes the cultural differences between dominant superior master race players and the majority of average scum who imagine to "play" this game, could be big, resulting in misunderstandings. Youre welcome.

Hahaha, nice one! Made me laugh, thanks (no sarcasm, im serious)

However tho, you guys overthink way too much what im saying, skipping my arguments and pretty much just troll around from somekinda mysteous Hill of Your Own Honor while no discussion (in academical way) is being hold. Just throwing sh** into each other. Ive reasoned and wrote my position on a matter, your emotions are totally understandable but i disagree with your vision of whats toxic, disrespectful, disagree with what you call abuse, harass etc. "Launching at opponents", the hell is that even, what a nonsense.
Also you wrongly count me in a category of some "elitists", while im actually casual lazy daddy (which i did mention in previous post and did mention alot of times here on forums too) who has logged yesterday to play joined force themed roleplay event once in last 4 months. But yeah, ive played this game on live, played it here for a very long time, played with alot of people in many different modes this game has to offer. Doesnt make me anyhow protier player, there lots of folks who play better than me. You call them toxic, cause you lose, i ask them advices and play with them and learn from them, and getting better and better each interaction. If you'd play with them as well, you'd found out how actually cool most dudes are that you try to set on fire. And how crucial are them for the game and community to develop.

Can agree to disagree i guess.

[Gladiolix]

This is hilarious stuff A complete meme warband having a laugh together and causing a huge ruckus while at it. I see many ways of fighting full runepriest warband, but this tunnel visioned blob-mentality that is oRvR nowadays seemengly can't figure any other way than to come to forums and yell for devs to come and aid them Adapting your own gameplay to your opponent is out of the question it seems.

Some adjustments might be warranted on RoB, but to be honest, victims of current RoB are already victims of all org wbs anyways, no matter the composition. Creative, outside of the box thinking combined with organization can and propably will create more of these meme parties+warbands and stacking any single class on either side will propably have some kind of forum backlash similar to this.

Pat on the back to TUP and BT and all others involved, keep them tears flowing, I don't care who cries as long as someone does, I'm almost crying of laughter here

[quda]

abuse game mechanincs = creative use of game mechanics

building a wb out of the abusing class = roleplay event

harassment = having fun

making fun of the harassed side = banter

getting farmed by abusive use of mechanics = own fault because of not knowing game mechanics


Just trying to help here with translation of vocabulary for both sides, for better communication and understanding. Sometimes the cultural differences between dominant superior master race players and the majority of average scum who imagine to "play" this game, could be big, resulting in misunderstandings. Youre welcome.

Hahaha, nice one! Made me laugh, thanks (no sarcasm, im serious)

However tho, you guys overthink way too much what im saying, skipping my arguments and pretty much just troll around from somekinda mysteous Hill of Your Own Honor while no discussion (in academical way) is being hold. Just throwing sh** into each other. Ive reasoned and wrote my position on a matter, your emotions are totally understandable but i disagree with your vision of whats toxic, disrespectful, disagree with what you call abuse, harass etc. "Launching at opponents", the hell is that even, what a nonsense.
Also you wrongly count me in a category of some "elitists", while im actually casual lazy daddy (which i did mention in previous post and did mention alot of times here on forums too) who has logged yesterday to play joined force themed roleplay event once in last 4 months. But yeah, ive played this game on live, played it here for a very long time, played with alot of people in many different modes this game has to offer. Doesnt make me anyhow protier player, there lots of folks who play better than me. You call them toxic, cause you lose, i ask them advices and play with them and learn from them, and getting better and better each interaction. If you'd play with them as well, you'd found out how actually cool most dudes are that you try to set on fire. And how crucial are them for the game and community to develop.

Can agree to disagree i guess.

you still cant get it. You made a much more drama about people posting, whining and complain. They can, and also most of them right. I played a lot with some old folkz. And yea most of them are gud fellas. But it happens in any community, some of people got "authority" and used it in their own way. Is it ok? yes. Does it makes game and community better? a bit maybe, but often opposite. The "elitist" is much about your and other order folkz approach, like throwing troll post, or blamin people for bein hardly abused, like that was their own fault, cause they are not so deep in to the game and patches. The thing is gud, that we got highlighted the problem. The bad thing, is that most of community old players are bit young in their mental age. Get your jokes in private chats, discords or whatever. But be polite and respectful to any players u interact with. And that mean, dont use exploits or build that even close to it, otherwise get ready for consequences. Even the streamer could apologize to destro players, pay them respect. Also we got a really gud fights hours before and tuesday evening.