All the best smallscale classes ingame are magic damage dealers

[salazarn]

Magus
Chosen
Archmage
Welf
Shaman

Even by your own logic you forgot sm for some strange reason.

Also, WE isn't good currently in no shape of form. Their theoretical magical dmg, Witchbrew, currently barely does any dmg. Their other good finisher, RA, which is actually physical dmg, was however nerfed 3 times (nerf on finisher itself, nerf on BE tactic % armor pen, 1.5 gcd change meaning BE is only good for 2 attacks after finisher)?

Now as for actual good classes, once again for some strange reason you forgot wl, sw, and ibs. All of which are currently roaming very successfully, and all of which do a physical dmg. So I guess you are just making things up, just so they fit your made up logic?

This is because these classes don't need to stack weaponskill and do more damage regardless. This let's them abuse regen/ toughness/ anti crit stacking to be more tanky than physical classes.

Magic dmg > physical

Currently the most tanky solo roamer is ib, physical dmg only. So yes, you are just making stuff up.

It's why classes like witchhunter are total garbage solo right now because they are pidgeonholed into a glass cannon spec that can't beat any of the above.

The game needs to shift some stuff around to break up this meta.

You do aware that currently one of wh's most popular specs is Abso spam, and half of it's dmg is spirit (Bullets)- that is what whs like Xzodiale are roaming with? Not to mention that the spec also provides healing that all classes besides am/sham in your list can only dream of? Or did some sham hit you with mushrooms too hard, and you are still recovering?

You make me laugh Zxul. Also no i'm not gonna reply to your insincere baiting because it just encourages you.

[Zxul]

You make me laugh Zxul. Also no i'm not gonna reply to your insincere baiting because it just encourages you.

So you got caught making things up, and now have nothing to say. As usual. Great that we agree. Now, again as usual, wait a few months till people forget this post, and try to post this again, hoping that this time no one will point out that you are just making things up.

[salazarn]

You make me laugh Zxul. Also no i'm not gonna reply to your insincere baiting because it just encourages you.

So you got caught making things up, and now have nothing to say. As usual. Great that we agree. Now, again as usual, wait a few months till people forget this post, and try to post this again, hoping that this time no one will point out that you are just making things up.

Sure. I got my abso spec to fall back on anyway

[Detangler]

Glad to see the topic staying nice and cordial...

[Fey]

With how strong the basic mechanics of the game are (detaunt) I would expect every class is able to small man with some decent degree of effectiveness.

If it's solo we're talking about, I have no input. I am the worst 1v1 player in history.

[Avernus]

That's quite crazy actually. One day i was running around and testing some stuff on my RP, and i got bursted a few times by a ranged squig herders. I checked the killboard for the damage recap and i was amazed to see auto attacks counting for as high as 45% of the damage in those few gcd's i was killed. And people talk about skill in this game, when u can have half of ur damage coming simply from clicking on the target

As far as i know, for some time their AA tactic was bugged, which led to you being demolished by super fast AA from both SH and his pet. Some other classes had similar bug but the most devastating result was when it was used by SH.

[Zxul]

That's quite crazy actually. One day i was running around and testing some stuff on my RP, and i got bursted a few times by a ranged squig herders. I checked the killboard for the damage recap and i was amazed to see auto attacks counting for as high as 45% of the damage in those few gcd's i was killed. And people talk about skill in this game, when u can have half of ur damage coming simply from clicking on the target

As far as i know, for some time their AA tactic was bugged, which led to you being demolished by super fast AA from both SH and his pet. Some other classes had similar bug but the most devastating result was when it was used by SH.

Not just that. Killboard seem to count both attacker's aa dmg and attacker's pet dmg under aa, so that 45% dmg needs to be divided between the two.

[Bozzax]

Magus
Chosen
Archmage
Welf
Shaman

This is because these classes don't need to stack weaponskill and do more damage regardless. This let's them abuse regen/ toughness/ anti crit stacking to be more tanky than physical classes.

Magic dmg > physical

It's why classes like witchhunter are total garbage solo right now because they are pidgeonholed into a glass cannon spec that can't beat any of the above.

The game needs to shift some stuff around to break up this meta.

Weekly nerf shaman thread in new wrapping?

What a world RoR we live in when WH's are played / created more than Slayers.. a class almost most people say is garbage for warbands.

Tip stats for what is actually played https://maartenson.net/ror_graph_pie.html

[salazarn]

I would add Sm,Squig Herder, WH, Dps Dok and Even Engi to the list in 1vx. You might want to check Engis and Squig Herders that are Auto Attack Haste Spec, Consistently in 1v1 kill AA dmg which is entirely ranged 30-40% of whole dmg is Auto Attack.

Thats Why Ws + Auto Attacks Easily Cover for the physical dmg if specced for it.

The most dusgusting solo specs are usually defence oriented - and that means that the classes which can ignore armor or don't care about it (magic) are having better chances in fight - because their damage relies on 1 stat only so they can invest more into their survivability. Thus, those classes have a lesser amount of bad matchups.

This Defensive Regen passive Bs meta has been a thing only after Gcd change, in 10sec insta 8skills vs 6 skills now. Thats 25% less intsant skills and those who have over 1.5s (new Gcd) Cast times benefit from this alot passively and might not notice first, but all the melees did when change happened. 035-04s slower per Gcd.im Still not used to new one.

RoR has imo always been too Defensive oriented, Removed 50% Heal debuffs, Killed Dps Dok that all destro Wbs had at least 1 one of for 50% HD. and for 10% hp to 100% Health in 1sec burst heals to himself or target from 150ft away while 50% heal debuffing 5 enemies around him as well, Devour Essence. Added aoe dmg and aoe cap and simplified the gameplay. Made Guard Mechanic work to have undefendable skills, very bad. 9cap and no morale dmg is needed so kills happen.

And defense/heals can happen in RvR because one grp heal is for 6 people. 8tanks in 1 wb, and 9 cap meaning that positioning and CC mattered, tanks soaked the dmg with the guardees and healers/ranged were away enough. 9sec stagger with 9 cap meant that one party could wipe 2/3 of the Wb during that 9s if they were good, Now nothing like that is possible. And then 1/3 ressed the dead and thats the cycle

Anyway Procs like Boost V has been removed from rr38 inf items, all tanks had this 2h inf wpn with Boost V. All tanks had epic quest option 10% taunt target this is gone from wpns as well. All classes deseve crit procs because crit dmg is the only thing thats not set in stone without modifiers 35-55% dmg/heal increase in crit.

True. Not to mention gcd change would help killing the unkillable tank healers this game has