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Tisaya
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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#41 » Sat Feb 08, 2025 4:34 pm

Hmm, I wonder why there are so many shamans, according to this graph. A real mystery!
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Bozzax
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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#42 » Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:11 pm

Maybe keep balancing posts out of this guys thread out of respect
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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Tisaya
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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#43 » Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:39 pm

Bozzax wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:11 pm Maybe keep balancing posts out of this guys thread out of respect
No. There's no point in data unless you draw conclusions from it.
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Voldt
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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#44 » Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:44 pm

Tisaya wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:39 pm
Bozzax wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:11 pm Maybe keep balancing posts out of this guys thread out of respect
No. There's no point in data unless you draw conclusions from it.
Trust no statistics you didn't rig yourself.

All can be interpreted differently. If it shows anything at all, it's that there are numerous factors (time of day, organized warbands etc.) deciding which side is dominant at the given moment. Neither Destro nor Order are "OP".

I guess it's just easier to see the world in black and white.

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leftayparxoun
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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#45 » Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:51 pm

It's also very important to draw the right conclusions from the data and, even more so, to know when we cannot draw proper conclusions from it.

In the case of healer pop% in the last 2 days we see:

Destro
  • Shaman = 45.0%
  • Zealot = 26.5%
  • DOK = 28.5%
Order
  • Archmage = 32.1%
  • Rune Priest = 27.0%
  • Warrior Priest = 41.9%
If population percentages were directly related to healer META performance then we'd be seeing Zealots and Runepriests in the first place instead of last for both realms.

If population percentages were directly related to dps-healer META performance then we'd expect similar percentages for both Shaman and AM and potentially more for AMs due to them having a slightly better dps toolkit (1 more dot than Shaman). Instead we see a huge difference with Shaman at 45% and AM at 32%.

What, in my opinion, could be at play here is class appeal with regard to fashion and looks.

As a matter of personal opinion, I think Goblins look awesome. At least more so compared to a crackhead cultist or an emo-bloodgirl.
Similarly on Order I find a literal armored Warrior Priest way more aesthetically appealing than an elf with robes and a stick or a small hobo with a stick.
And potentially more people could share similar opinions regarding class looks and appeal, resulting in those percentages.

To reiterate what I said in the start; we must be very careful when handling and trying to explain data, as in many cases the explanation is multifaceted and not easily traceable from the data itself.
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anstalt
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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#46 » Sun Feb 09, 2025 1:37 am

I'm with you on the healer thing Only.

Shamans are the best looking destro healer (because they're green!!!). Greenskins have always had a special place in the communities heart. Doesn't hurt that they're also fun to play, and DPS shaman is a real laugh! Why would I wanna play a Zealot (that looks like a half rotten zombie imo!) or a DoK (skinny little elf!).


Same thing with Warrior Priests! The whole aesthetic is impressive, cool looking armour, shaven head, and when they're wielding a 2h weapon they just look badass!
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Bozzax
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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#47 » Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:20 am

Racial grouping would be a nice add
Wholdar wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2025 4:19 pm Done!
/j
Neat I must say I think this is a great addition to the game as whole
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

Wholdar
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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#48 » Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:56 am

Bozzax wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:20 am Neat I must say I think this is a great addition to the game as whole
Thats nice to hear, thanks!

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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#49 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:10 am

one question: theres a nice percentage number showing up behind the careers, which is very helpful. unfortunately these percentages dont show up in the "order/destro careers" selection and its very hard to guess the amounts (impossible on longer timeframes).
would it be possible to show these percentages there too please?

Wholdar
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Re: Just some population graphs

Post#50 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:04 pm

guessgap wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:10 am one question: theres a nice percentage number showing up behind the careers, which is very helpful. unfortunately these percentages dont show up in the "order/destro careers" selection and its very hard to guess the amounts (impossible on longer timeframes).
would it be possible to show these percentages there too please?
Hi!

Reasonable request! Absolutely, I'll look into it.

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