[SL] why so unpopular?

[cabal852]

And still zero team-member speaks about balance.

They are joke. Not my devs. Useless members.

[Farrul]

The worst thing that could happen would be for SL to be buffed into "popularity" again. What needs to happen is for intra-realm balance to be restored. And that means bringing down WL damage, bringing down SL damage (and yes, choppa and mara, probably squiggie), increasing their utility, increasing the damage and where needed utility on other classes+mirrors mentioned. The single minded garbage that lead to popular DPS classes becoming all raw damage while the rest were effectively deleted needs to be a thing of the past, and some of the subtle but well thought out synergies that the actual professional developers at Mythic gave us need to come back and be expanded on. They weren't perfect, and things like pre-buff WL were absolutely dead, but the way this was solved was on the whole very detrimental. Only when the warbands are diverse again, OUTSIDE of the three alternating stack picks, start thinking about realm vs realm balance in terms of throughput, and touch on multiple classes to solve.

One critical element which is missing in your assessment of intra-realm balance is to consider how the two different factions are populated ( in terms of class roles) .

Destro has always been the melee heavy faction with a surplus of tanks (guard) available and their mdps classes are tankier overall, creating much better conditions and atmosphere generally for melee gameplay. Something with the Order mdps and melee classes need to stand out to create an incentive to play them(especially the dwarf, since let's be honest the cool dawi is the IB/Engineer ). Otherwise you will end up with a snowball effect situation worse than ever where the Orders(and orderlings) just keep rolling their DPS AM and SW and the full circus is on.

The reason des complains so much nowdays about SW etc is because they no longer have GTDC or the super bugged mara pull to turn the Order range spam into their advantage like they used to. But SW with the same arsenal and level of damage was considered nothing special or even underpowered compared to SH at some point, mind you with identical tools. They didn't change much at all , but things around them certainly did.

The other point missing here is healers, healers( detaunt) is super meta , if there isn't sufficient effective damage to break them at some point, the game just becomes the opposite of fun for everyone involved and rdps alone do not have this leverage without the pressure of effective mdps classes. Nerfing dps of these classes means the utility must be directly targeted vs the heal meta, do you honestly trust the devs of ror(no offence , full respect to them doing this on their free time) to solve this effectively and figure this balance out without creating a multiple new ones?

Better they just stick to what is there and work with it. Their whole philosphy with these patches need to shift from nerf this and that, into improve this and that, otherwise i fear for the future of this project.

[Nelly74]

Being a super casual player, I was wondering if the devs had done anything for the Slayer since the last WS patch? Gotta admit, they really messed up big time by destroying a class like that (and let's not even talk about the Rampage nerf).

[Spawn153]

I love this game very much and I recommend it to everyone, definitely try it.

[mazi761111]

Solo Slayer Player, don't worry, you can still have 60%+parry

[Tyrvald]

Being a super casual player, I was wondering if the devs had done anything for the Slayer since the last WS patch? Gotta admit, they really messed up big time by destroying a class like that (and let's not even talk about the Rampage nerf).

Not at all
Slayers are still only usefull for SC and def of keep / fortress.

Just forget to play solo - all destro class (fully and fairly equiped) can now slay you..
At least if the counterpart was a 2H upscale of the dmg + cc to have a real ST spec

And for open WB... The game is now "Elf-inclusive" Working way of life and Elgi have far more power
Youre a dawi - you ll be nerf
Youre a Elgi - dont worry you can do all what you want

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Grudges will not be forgotten !

[REWENGA]

Just forget to play solo - all destro class (fully and fairly equiped) can now slay you..
At least if the counterpart was a 2H upscale of the dmg + cc to have a real ST spec

You have it, ask Rhori, probably the best slayer of the server. It's not fun to meet him solo, but he's a very honorable player.

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... ter/140024

[shoelessHN]

Being a super casual player, I was wondering if the devs had done anything for the Slayer since the last WS patch? Gotta admit, they really messed up big time by destroying a class like that (and let's not even talk about the Rampage nerf).

Why not talk about it? A 5 point ability that for years would completely ignore morale abilities or entire class mechanics? FIXING that, was a nerf?

[normanis]

Being a super casual player, I was wondering if the devs had done anything for the Slayer since the last WS patch? Gotta admit, they really messed up big time by destroying a class like that (and let's not even talk about the Rampage nerf).

Why not talk about it? A 5 point ability that for years would completely ignore morale abilities or entire class mechanics? FIXING that, was a nerf?

so punce 65 feet and get destroyed by wl is normal foru?

[Nelly74]

Being a super casual player, I was wondering if the devs had done anything for the Slayer since the last WS patch? Gotta admit, they really messed up big time by destroying a class like that (and let's not even talk about the Rampage nerf).

Why not talk about it? A 5 point ability that for years would completely ignore morale abilities or entire class mechanics? FIXING that, was a nerf?

I'm not saying that Rampage shouldn't have been adjusted; I'm just saying that what was done is a bad move. Destroying such a defining skill of a class without offering anything in return is a mistake. The Slayer deserves some love, not just for solo roaming. Sorry to hear that nothing has been done—my bearded warrior will keep gathering dust. -_-