Current State Feedback from a veteran player post 2

[Sinisterror]

I quess the word Veteran has no meaning anymore but if you have played from 2008 forwards id say that is enough so present your own arguments instead of saying pointless things like " You present yourself as an authority " well how else is someone making points supposed to present themselves? ffs...

So if you have issue with his statement quote that part of it and say what you think is wrong with it and how it works according to you and WE THE PEOPLE can make our own minds about that statement or statements.

Edit; Im not saying you have to have even played the original to have an opinion but im saying if you have played the original it carries a weight for me personally and i mean we are playing the corpse of that game to this day so ofc it matters

[Panzer80]

This post shows that being a "veteran player" should not weight much
Terrible suggestions

No. The replies actually show the mediocrity of the player base. As usual.

[Panzer80]

Complete nonsense.
mdps already crap classes which require babysitters for them, you want to nerf them even more?

No. They are not crap classes. Melee balls are still solid. You just play one from the sound of it. Give me an argument for why mdps should have spamable 25 ft range attacks. Other than it's easy to hit a lot of people. The gameplay in this game is too oriented toward low skilled play.

[Panzer80]

Personally i think MDPS is the archtype that suffers the most in this game, they heavily depend on potion, gear, tanks and heals.....The other 3 do not.

i do agree however that the punts on SM and BO are a bit of an issue, single target punts are very finicky actions that require alot of skill and accuracy to do correctly so timing is everything, which is what these classes do not have with the class mechanic.

One fix would be to simply remove the mechanic restriction from it - however this would make them copy catting the other classes somewhat.....So maybe there's something else we can do to sooth this issue.

We could make them very weak punts that have a very small cooldown or perhaps no immunity timer involved, i think alot of players would soon find that to be very annoying though lol....

I'm all for increasing damage but lowering AOE range for mdsp. However, we're getting into total rework discussion territory with that.

I like your style on the other suggestions. I don't like pushing changes all towards the center to where its boring. I don't like exact mirrors and classes should be and feel significantly different. The BO getting a guard break punt was nice, but they changed the SM to be a copy of it when it already had a great shield punt. Overall, though tanks are still in a better place for balance now.

[Panzer80]

I'm curious as to why your opinions on any of this matter more than the average person that plays, are you a designer or a playtester or somebody involved with the project? I'm also curious as to what metrics you're using for all of these adjustments you're suggesting. Have you any sort of data to support any of this?

I do like discussion on these things, but you present yourself as an authority on this, and I'd like to see why besides merely that you play and have feelings about it.

I'm not that pretentious or pedantic. These are some of the things wrong with the game is all.

[Panzer80]

I quess the word Veteran has no meaning anymore but if you have played from 2008 forwards id say that is enough so present your own arguments instead of saying pointless things like " You present yourself as an authority " well how else is someone making points supposed to present themselves? ffs...

So if you have issue with his statement quote that part of it and say what you think is wrong with it and how it works according to you and WE THE PEOPLE can make our own minds about that statement or statements.

Edit; Im not saying you have to have even played the original to have an opinion but im saying if you have played the original it carries a weight for me personally and i mean we are playing the corpse of that game to this day so ofc it matters

The forum responses are typically very low grade in here. The posts are rarely better. You should have to have at least 3 years of activity on this server before being able to post imo. Thanks for making sense and point out how most of these people can't even make a counterpoint.

[Sinisterror]

I quess the word Veteran has no meaning anymore but if you have played from 2008 forwards id say that is enough so present your own arguments instead of saying pointless things like " You present yourself as an authority " well how else is someone making points supposed to present themselves? ffs...

So if you have issue with his statement quote that part of it and say what you think is wrong with it and how it works according to you and WE THE PEOPLE can make our own minds about that statement or statements.

Edit; Im not saying you have to have even played the original to have an opinion but im saying if you have played the original it carries a weight for me personally and i mean we are playing the corpse of that game to this day so ofc it matters

The forum responses are typically very low grade in here. The posts are rarely better. You should have to have at least 3 years of activity on this server before being able to post imo. Thanks for making sense and point out how most of these people can't even make a counterpoint.

Yep, sometimes i read 2018-2021 posts for example and the average quality of players now vs then is pretty staggering. Though i cant read like half of my own posts "You dont have access to this forum " so alot of great threads have been removed from public eye. Im sure they still are accessible if you have right kind of permissions.

[Keula]

This post shows that being a "veteran player" should not weight much
Terrible suggestions

No. The replies actually show the mediocrity of the player base. As usual.

Says the "veteran" thinking that a 15 sec dot on dps healer is "too powerful for instant cast". Like why single out that thing at all as it's not ever remotely op, it makes no sense, or that squig herder having a disarm is somehow op.

Also 100% reduced healing as normal skill(I mean sure if you give it 60s cd, maybe and it replaces the normal hd) just sounds very unfun and doesn't add any depth.

[salazarn]

i stopped reading the 1st time at the punt thing.. gave it another chance and stopped reading the 2nd time for good at the 100% IHD section XD btw most aoe ability is 25ft not 30ft atm. this sounds like 1v1/solo player wishlist or something and doesn't take in to account the design philosophy of the game or any of its core mechanics and inner workings.

Healers need to be broken and mindless! That's important for the games design philosophy! Ye?!
Rvr basically being a snooze fest due to aoe heal spam until a bigger blob rolls over them is not a design philosophy

[Nelly74]

Rarely had the opportunity to read so many false things and so many bad ideas.