Solo roaming

[Culexus]

I only care about having the respect of my guild members, which I'm sure I have.

It's hypocrisy, as almost everyone uses some form of regen or self healing, they just don't like it when they're the ones on the losing side. Even the OP uses regen right now on his black orc (right now he is using warlord chest and boots, which grant regen, and regen pocket item, which he could replace for other pocket items, but he chooses regen).

There's also ignorance, as some people think that by just having more regen than their opponent they will win fights, which is simply not true, and when they lose they whine about other things supposedly being broken, like block, beards, dwarfs, etc.

You know full well that 2 wl and the pocket item isn't a defensive regen spec, which is what was mentioned in the OP. Regen only matters if you have the mitigation and defenses to go along with it. That is why it's so strong on SnB IB and Chosen, as you know.

There's nothing wrong with running regen builds if that's the playstyle you enjoy, and you have crafted possibly the best solo roam build on the server, but let's not pretend it's not an enormous crutch compared to not running that build. I'm not saying you're a bad player as you're not, but you can't go around boasting of your skill when it's literally impossible for most classes to kill you 1v1, or even 1vx, because of your build.

[F4llen4ngel]

Very are many solo roamers on the order side. Unfortunately, it's not supported by destro who tend to bunch up and even run boxes as full wb's. Save for an occasional regen chosen or a lowbie box runner, it's hard to find a solo destro player.

Also it must be mentioned, it is not supported by order too, just to be fair, you know you chase lvl 16 solos with your 6men with your white lion its totally fine, just please dont act like it is one-sided Cheers.

Most of the time I'm solo and almost always fight against 2+. When I'm grouping, our group is always outnumbered as well.

So you are saying you are "always" outnumbered, okay, these were the fights i was referring, when i was outnumbered by you, so my original point of view, that both order and destruction kills solos still stands, ty, cheers:

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39640171
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39098501
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39098760
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39640171
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39641817

[jafh123]

I only care about having the respect of my guild members, which I'm sure I have.

It's hypocrisy, as almost everyone uses some form of regen or self healing, they just don't like it when they're the ones on the losing side. Even the OP uses regen right now on his black orc (right now he is using warlord chest and boots, which grant regen, and regen pocket item, which he could replace for other pocket items, but he chooses regen).

There's also ignorance, as some people think that by just having more regen than their opponent they will win fights, which is simply not true, and when they lose they whine about other things supposedly being broken, like block, beards, dwarfs, etc.

You know full well that 2 wl and the pocket item isn't a defensive regen spec, which is what was mentioned in the OP. Regen only matters if you have the mitigation and defenses to go along with it. That is why it's so strong on SnB IB and Chosen, as you know.

There's nothing wrong with running regen builds if that's the playstyle you enjoy, and you have crafted possibly the best solo roam build on the server, but let's not pretend it's not an enormous crutch compared to not running that build. I'm not saying you're a bad player as you're not, but you can't go around boasting of your skill when it's literally impossible for most classes to kill you 1v1, or even 1vx, because of your build.

I've reread my message and I fail to see where I've boasted about skills. There will always be classes that are better suited for 1v1 than others (IB, for example), and also classes that will outperform these 1v1 classes in a group setting, as in every MMO.

Regen is just one stat, and as long as you are using it, your build can be considered a regen build, because it has regen; or is there a regen jury that determines the amount of regen that is morally acceptable?

As I said, hypocrisy and ignorance.

[Farrul]

however the physical classes ( need to stack weapon skill) do need to sacrifce an important set bonus if they want to use shimmer chest since they are more starved when it comes to the itemization ( superior itemization of magic classes) but the wl chest still has regen on it and provides the important set bonus for these tank classes.

Furrul just to be clear, I'm really trying to figure out, are you intentionally trying to prove that you don't have one single correct idea about builds, stats, or equipment of caster classes in the game?

Regen magus highest set with toughness set bonus is dominator. Ok, there is no way that you could intentionally call it "superior itemization of magic classes" without it being pure trolling.

Prove what? The fact that magic classes do not need to build a secondary dps stat(weapon skill) and thus has an advantage to their stats/gearing? There is nothing to discuss except maybe how you fail to realize such a simple thing?

But it is cute of you to quote a pharagraph about ( obviously ) magic tanks vs physical tanks and turn it into an argument about a magus(caster) regen set bonus, maybe you are just bored and need a hobby?

[Nelly74]

I only care about having the respect of my guild members, which I'm sure I have.

It's hypocrisy, as almost everyone uses some form of regen or self healing, they just don't like it when they're the ones on the losing side. Even the OP uses regen right now on his black orc (right now he is using warlord chest and boots, which grant regen, and regen pocket item, which he could replace for other pocket items, but he chooses regen).

There's also ignorance, as some people think that by just having more regen than their opponent they will win fights, which is simply not true, and when they lose they whine about other things supposedly being broken, like block, beards, dwarfs, etc.

You know full well that 2 wl and the pocket item isn't a defensive regen spec, which is what was mentioned in the OP. Regen only matters if you have the mitigation and defenses to go along with it. That is why it's so strong on SnB IB and Chosen, as you know.

There's nothing wrong with running regen builds if that's the playstyle you enjoy, and you have crafted possibly the best solo roam build on the server, but let's not pretend it's not an enormous crutch compared to not running that build. I'm not saying you're a bad player as you're not, but you can't go around boasting of your skill when it's literally impossible for most classes to kill you 1v1, or even 1vx, because of your build.

I've reread my message and I fail to see where I've boasted about skills. There will always be classes that are better suited for 1v1 than others (IB, for example), and also classes that will outperform these 1v1 classes in a group setting, as in every MMO.

Regen is just one stat, and as long as you are using it, your build can be considered a regen build, because it has regen; or is there a regen jury that determines the amount of regen that is morally acceptable?

As I said, hypocrisy and ignorance.

Obviously, you didn’t understand what well-meaning and patient people just tried to explain to you. Perhaps it would be best to try to understand others' points of view on this matter, instead of assuming that your own conclusions are necessarily more correct than theirs? And since you mentioned a jury, I invite you to reread your last sentence.

[Zxul]

Prove what? The fact that magic classes do not need to build a secondary dps stat(weapon skill) and thus has an advantage to their stats/gearing? There is nothing to discuss except maybe how you fail to realize such a simple thing?

And as you have been told by now by different people what, 10 times, more? Physical classes have extra ws stat on their sets compared to caster classes. Not to mention physical classes- unlike caster classes- having both direct armor debuffs and ws % based armor pen, which stack with each other. Pushing your fingers into your ears just so you can pretend you didn't hear it doesn't actually makes it go away.

But it is cute of you to quote a pharagraph about ( obviously ) magic tanks vs physical tanks and turn it into an argument about a magus(caster) regen set bonus, maybe you are just bored and need a hobby?

Quoting you directly again- "superior itemization of magic classes"- remind me, which part of that means tanks? Because for some strange reason I just don't see it, for some reason it looks like the quote actually says "superior itemization of magic classes".

[Martok]

...i'm please to see more ppl going on offensive builds while roaming instead of defensive ones...

There is more to solo roaming than just the build you use. But yaeh, in today's game it is pretty much a lost art.

[Pahakukka]

...i'm please to see more ppl going on offensive builds while roaming instead of defensive ones...

There is more to solo roaming than just the build you use. But yaeh, in today's game it is pretty much a lost art.

There is, but the builds are a strong factor we can affect by our own choices.

[Farrul]

And as you have been told by now by different people what, 10 times, more? Physical classes have extra ws stat on their sets compared to caster classes. Not to mention physical classes- unlike caster classes- having both direct armor debuffs and ws % based armor pen, which stack with each other. Pushing your fingers into your ears just so you can pretend you didn't hear it doesn't actually makes it go away.

This will be my last reply to you here since i consider you ignorant from previous posts on this subject and not worthwhile to discuss with, i do not mean to offend just being honest.

I understand you are not very good at game mechanics by the very nature of these posts which means you can't be very good at creating effective builds ( no offence again). If you dont see the advantage of magic classes( the fact you mention dominator gear is lol, seriously for your own sake get a clue ).

Magic classes has a huge advantage in this game when it comes to stats building, a simple 10 year old mind would get this logic fast when he is trying to min- max powerful builds, that doesn't mean a magic class is better per se than a physical class as there are more things to consider to each individual class which makes them unique, but there is no contest when it comes to general itemization.

Now you mention completely irrelevant things as usual, as there are armor debuffs there are also armor reduction in % (percentage) etc why do you think fleshrenders are so strong, because of the 40 regen alone? But these things are not the stat/itemization point mentioned here. These things are relevant in regards to penetration which again magic has a huge advantage in, how resistance / resistance debuff works in this game is a joke in all contexts outside of hold the line /shield tanks.

Hence why so many developers nowdays use the same formula for mitigation with different scources of damage ( physical, elemental etc) to not create imbalances like the ones seen in old games like Warhammer online.

Finally, these ''10'' people you mention have like yourself failed in disproving this simple logic, in fact if you whish to use the ''us argument'' iirc it was 3 forum users( you included in this number ) arguing for the sake of destro casters , now me and some others who created some of these threads iirc and possbible the best player that this server has seen @ MDPV explained to you clearly how magic classes has an advantage over physical, in fact i went through the numbers in detail when it comes to penetration how absurdly more powerful magic is with stat investments in mind. It is not even close when considering overall efficiency of penetration. I doubt you will ever get this since you seem to have a pretty strong bias for your magus and some hatred vs the White lion.

[Tisaya]

Also it must be mentioned, it is not supported by order too, just to be fair, you know you chase lvl 16 solos with your 6men with your white lion its totally fine, just please dont act like it is one-sided Cheers.

Most of the time I'm solo and almost always fight against 2+. When I'm grouping, our group is always outnumbered as well.

So you are saying you are "always" outnumbered, okay, these were the fights i was referring, when i was outnumbered by you, so my original point of view, that both order and destruction kills solos still stands, ty, cheers:

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39640171
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39098501
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39098760
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39640171
https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com/kill/39641817

Just because you were caught alone, doesn't mean we had no AAO in the zone.

Also, all goblins must die and shamans must die first. Playing the most broken class in the game retracts your right to complain.