2X Renown and Crests on Weekends Permanently

[Sinisterror]

Vanq with pve is definetely enough to beat bis players if you are better player. Conq/red-eye should be lvl 35 or so and vanq/opp should be rr40-45 set. These are so easy changes and leaves room for new set rr 50-58.

I remember RoR staff saying there wont be +2 career point set bonus in the game because its too powerful and then HIGHEST RR GEAR gets the +2 instead of merce/ruin/anni...

[Toshutkidup]

This server had a system years ago that once you hit 40RR you lost 50% RR gain. Then Once you hit 80.. you gained zero RR as 80 was the "cap" . People were playing and earning zero.crests earned in kills wasn't a thing years ago.

Believe me things have gotten so much easier to gain and earn. Not to mention "wasting" crests in low ur gear shouldn't be a thing as lobbies gear is a lot cheaper, some of it is trade able . If ur not playing in guilds that passing crests, help out it's Guidies then change guilds.Pve sets that skip having to earn pvp gear until endgame if you wish.

I see people constant giving out free Conq/Anni/merc and even some Vanq gear.

The whole point of this post is that Vanq is not good enough to compete with players wearing sov, nor do people want to attempt that for 6 months before having a level playing field. When there was a 50% rr reduction after level 40, the BiS gear only required rr 40 or 50. It is still too slow of progression to retain the average player.

And I disagree with that assessment but that's ok and I'm not gonna keep arguing about it. People can believe what they want either way about it.

[Reivren27]

People stop playing or start playing much less often because they are bored and have seen everything they can on that server. This is a problem with many MMORPGs, especially pvp-oriented ones, where player retention is much harder.
Only significant changes and the introduction of new, productive content can bring back old players and attract at least some new ones. To maintain the current population it is enough to hold all sorts of events more often and do x2 rr/warcrests, people should get better gear faster and enjoy the game rather than spending hundreds of hours on it - it should be a thing of the past.
P.S. and lower the cost of vic/trium costume jewelry finally, it's absolutely insane and unreasonable price.

[kleinbuchstabe]

People stop playing or start playing much less often because they are bored and have seen everything they can on that server. This is a problem with many MMORPGs, especially pvp-oriented ones, where player retention is much harder.
Only significant changes and the introduction of new, productive content can bring back old players and attract at least some new ones. To maintain the current population it is enough to hold all sorts of events more often and do x2 rr/warcrests, people should get better gear faster and enjoy the game rather than spending hundreds of hours on it - it should be a thing of the past.
P.S. and lower the cost of vic/trium costume jewelry finally, it's absolutely insane and unreasonable price.

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[shamallow]

People stop playing or start playing much less often because they are bored and have seen everything they can on that server. This is a problem with many MMORPGs, especially pvp-oriented ones, where player retention is much harder.
Only significant changes and the introduction of new, productive content can bring back old players and attract at least some new ones. To maintain the current population it is enough to hold all sorts of events more often and do x2 rr/warcrests, people should get better gear faster and enjoy the game rather than spending hundreds of hours on it - it should be a thing of the past.
P.S. and lower the cost of vic/trium costume jewelry finally, it's absolutely insane and unreasonable price.

Totally agree.
I cannot believe that the developers do not want to make this better.
It would make the game more enjoyable for many players, not just a minority who spend a lot of time on it.

[Xiander]

I don't personally like the idea that only way you can speed up your gearing process is by playing during these events, it really forces the player to schedule their time around these events if they want to play optimally and it really reminds me the ring event (which i really dislike) where you only have time 2-3 week time period when you need to play if you want to craft your BiS rings.

I would like to see reduction on prices by around 50% on every set, now that might sound really a lot but if you buy every CR40 sets, Conqueror (849 crests) - Vanquisher (1691) - Victorious + Triumphant (16127 per set 32254 if you buy both of em) - Warlord (7922) and Sovereign off and main (10333 per set so 20666 total) we are looking at 63382 war crests now if price got reduced by 50% we would still be looking at 31691 war crests total and you need to remember you also need to get your fort weapon, scenario weapons and low level sets which i didn't include so we are looking probably around 35000 crests.

Arguement could be said that do you really need every set and i believe it would make the game more interesting and less boring at least for me, if the players could play around gear bit more, versus just reading some guides or asking advice what is your BiS setup and only get those pieces since you can't afford the other sets.

Same really with the weekly things like the dungeon lockout dyes, 280 weeks if you want to dye one(1) of your sets with warpgate black dye that is 5.3 years assuming you don't miss dungeon lockouts.

TLDR: Game has been made really boring with the unrealistic/needlessly huge amount grind you need to do for no reason, i personally enjoyed the game more during the conqueror days when i could play other characters and be fine with my annihilator/ruin since gear cap and renown cap wasn't as huge, and this is coming from someone who has multiple +rr80 characters.

[Nameless]

Imo bis gear price tag should stay aka sov and triumph ring. But everything else should drop significantly. So ppl reach decent gear easier but top gear would still need some time and dedication.
Nowadays almost noone use annihilator, conq, invader and warlord gear. Drop the prices so ppl got more options but keep current bis gear price so ppl have something to work for.
Full ivader should be like 500-600 crests, full wl 1k max

[Blorke]

I don't personally like the idea that only way you can speed up your gearing process is by playing during these events, it really forces the player to schedule their time around these events if they want to play optimally and it really reminds me the ring event (which i really dislike) where you only have time 2-3 week time period when you need to play if you want to craft your BiS rings.

I would like to see reduction on prices by around 50% on every set, now that might sound really a lot but if you buy every CR40 sets, Conqueror (849 crests) - Vanquisher (1691) - Victorious + Triumphant (16127 per set 32254 if you buy both of em) - Warlord (7922) and Sovereign off and main (10333 per set so 20666 total) we are looking at 63382 war crests now if price got reduced by 50% we would still be looking at 31691 war crests total and you need to remember you also need to get your fort weapon, scenario weapons and low level sets which i didn't include so we are looking probably around 35000 crests.

Arguement could be said that do you really need every set and i believe it would make the game more interesting and less boring at least for me, if the players could play around gear bit more, versus just reading some guides or asking advice what is your BiS setup and only get those pieces since you can't afford the other sets.

Same really with the weekly things like the dungeon lockout dyes, 280 weeks if you want to dye one(1) of your sets with warpgate black dye that is 5.3 years assuming you don't miss dungeon lockouts.

TLDR: Game has been made really boring with the unrealistic/needlessly huge amount grind you need to do for no reason, i personally enjoyed the game more during the conqueror days when i could play other characters and be fine with my annihilator/ruin since gear cap and renown cap wasn't as huge, and this is coming from someone who has multiple +rr80 characters.

The time argument only works for devs obviously, because there is something like RL work only they have to do.

[Cyardor]

I just recently started playing again and am only in my thirties with CR and RR and already feel that my progress considerably slowed down to the point that I have much less fun playing. The issue isn't the grind itself for me but the combination of needing to grind and having to rely on server activity. if the server activity is low at the same time I want to play I can barely make any progress which just feels bad and makes me close the game. When I come back later it feels almost like I am forced to play at these times and still the progress feels like it is crawling which negatively impacts my enjoyment. Thinking that it will get even worse really makes me rethink playing.
Also it makes me feel bad for people in the other time zones as I am at least European.

[Martok]

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