does order still need tanks and destro healers?

[OstianKing]

Does order still need tanks and destro need healers? while playing WP i noticed everyone and their mother playing healers on order side and barely any tanks. similar with destro when i was trying black orc.

[memesperg]

nope what RoR needs is people to stop xrealming during sieges & joining the side with more numbers to farm bags or discord WBs flipping before a fort to farm PuGs & small guilds or starting a fort to just leave & go flip a zone for a free bag & leave the other side in a fort for 20min so they only get 1 crest & 100 rr while they go flip zones for bags doing PvD the list goes on with this player base

[OstianKing]

nope what RoR needs is people to stop xrealming during sieges & joining the side with more numbers to farm bags or discord WBs flipping before a fort to farm PuGs & small guilds or starting a fort to just leave & go flip a zone for a free bag & leave the other side in a fort for 20min so they only get 1 crest & 100 rr while they go flip zones for bags doing PvD the list goes on with this player base

is xrealming like switching characters on different factions? sorry still a noob to RoR

[Rotgut]

Not really. Both faction just needs good players regardless of class.

Its just easier to solo queue as a Healer or 2h Tank so that is what most people do. All classes are designed to function in a team and every piece is crucial, so its almost impossible to do most jobs if pieces are missing. Healing, DPSing as a 2h Tank or playing a rDPS are less of a struggle tho.

Ever played Overwatch, LoL or Dota? Same thing with those games. That's why they implemented some sort of mechanic that forces or heavily incentives players to play their roles before getting into a match. We don't have MMR or a hundred thousand players, so players naturally go to other options. You either dominate Scenarios with a premade you found in your guild or in /LFG, or you give up on trying and pick a Healer, rDPS or 2h Tank.

And that's why you see so many of those classes in SCs. Its just harder to play anything else without a team.

[OstianKing]

Not really. Both faction just needs good players regardless of class.

Its just easier to solo queue as a Healer or 2h Tank so that is what most people do. All classes are designed to function in a team and every piece is crucial, so its almost impossible to do most jobs if pieces are missing. Healing, DPSing as a 2h Tank or playing a rDPS are less of a struggle tho.

Ever played Overwatch, LoL or Dota? Same thing with those games. That's why they implemented some sort of mechanic that forces or heavily incentives players to play their roles before getting into a match. We don't have MMR or a hundred thousand players, so players naturally go to other options. You either dominate Scenarios with a premade you found in your guild or in /LFG, or you give up on trying and pick a Healer, rDPS or 2h Tank.

And that's why you see so many of those classes in SCs. Its just harder to play anything else without a team.

so i call roll a dps on either side and i'd still be ok? because i wanted to main witch hunter on order and sorcerer or choppa on destro.

[Rotgut]

nope what RoR needs is people to stop xrealming during sieges & joining the side with more numbers to farm bags or discord WBs flipping before a fort to farm PuGs & small guilds or starting a fort to just leave & go flip a zone for a free bag & leave the other side in a fort for 20min so they only get 1 crest & 100 rr while they go flip zones for bags doing PvD the list goes on with this player base

is xrealming like switching characters on different factions? sorry still a noob to RoR

Xrealming is switching factions, yes, but that dude's complaint is a misconception. The one guild that used to do this, and not that regularly honestly, are gone.

The reason you'll sometimes see a side winning a Keep with 100% AAO or whatever, and then suddenly facing a packed Fort is kinda the same reason why you mostly see a spam of the same archetypes in midtier Scenarios - difficulty.

Content in this game is created by players. If specific players - WB Leaders - aren't around there is no content, both Guild WB Leaders or Pugleaders. It is hard to lead a WB in oRvR. Its not hard to lead a WB in a Fort where most of what you gotta do is sit behind a funnel, so more players step up to form fort pugbands than they do to form pugbands in the lakes.

[memesperg]

nope what RoR needs is people to stop xrealming during sieges & joining the side with more numbers to farm bags or discord WBs flipping before a fort to farm PuGs & small guilds or starting a fort to just leave & go flip a zone for a free bag & leave the other side in a fort for 20min so they only get 1 crest & 100 rr while they go flip zones for bags doing PvD the list goes on with this player base

is xrealming like switching characters on different factions? sorry still a noob to RoR

yep there is a 80min lockout but most of the people that xrealm as a gameplay loop use dual accounts & a vpn to bypass the lockout, most players now day will just look at the website & see what faction has more numbers & play that side & they flip when 1 side gains a player base or discord WB advantage

Anyone that says they flip to the losing side is a lier only 5% of the player base flip to the losing side & when they do its to farm RR with the aao bonus not actually help the losing side win objectives, its what xrealm discord groups use as a justification to flip on a siege or fort when most of the time that discord group started the siege or fort just to bait the side so they can flip to farm them

[Rotgut]

so i call roll a dps on either side and i'd still be ok? because i wanted to main witch hunter on order and sorcerer on destro.

If you have no interest in joining a Guild or using /LFG, i suggest you start with Sorc and play Single Target build. Just chill in the background assisting your fellow DPS.

New players look at WH and think "oh cool, a stealth class, i can play by myself and ruin the day of clothies" but thats not how it works. Because every single class in this game has Detaunt, one button and you're doing 50% less dmg, so its very hard to get solo kills in SCs unless you build for it. And even so its still hard.

[OstianKing]

so i call roll a dps on either side and i'd still be ok? because i wanted to main witch hunter on order and sorcerer on destro.

If you have no interest in joining a Guild or using /LFG, i suggest you start with Sorc and play Single Target build. Just chill in the background assisting your fellow DPS.

New players look at WH and think "oh cool, a stealth class, i can play by myself and ruin the day of clothies" but thats not how it works. Because every single class in this game has Detaunt, one button and you're doing 50% less dmg, so its very hard to get solo kills in SCs unless you build for it. And even so its still hard.

guess i'll do kotbs on order and black orc on destro

[Rotgut]

guess i'll do kotbs on order and black orc on destro

I would suggest going 2h but playing as a Tank still. Build for tanking, not for dpsing, even if u are using a big ass sword/axe, and then set up your team for success.

Guard, Guard Swap, watch the damn screen so you can counter-play the enemy with CCs, punt away your target's Guard, follow the person you're Guarding instead of doing ur own thing (you can step away once u learn when you're allowed to). These things are more impactful and more engaging than being a mediocre DPS, imo.