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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#51 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:40 pm

SZ244663 wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:56 am
normanis wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:33 am rr from healing is nerfed, ppl play with dps speces (eov/fury of da green and rr gain from solo healing) as healer if u dont have kill blow u dont get medals and lotd resources
destro has dok snare, order dont have such tools .
wl pet act very bad ewen worst than squig pet
problem is shaman dont counter destro cc (mara pulls ) shaman on ror get more buffs than on vanilla. because am have 1 3d dot, shaman also got something. byt give speed for am and shaman u cant , remembre unique part. (sacrefice tactic vs free abilitie. tactics are not unlimited)
who said about lets both sides keep unique, just nerf 1 side or give it to counter side. here is nothing unique just mess.
also heald debuffs are not fixed byt nerfed.
this is not 1vs1 game byt nerfs mostly come from 1vs1 fights (pounce nerf + counterstrike)
1 side has dok snare 33%speed + racial (grp setup) vs side who dont have nothing to counter that(flee has both sides) very ''unique'' ''balanced'' game.
ppl are leaving not because of relife byt because of disbalance. i bet relife has 3 more incognito shamans because his shaman is marked and he need put effort to find duel with someone. if dps shaman would be trash like dps rp , noone wil play tham as dps.
p.s same time rune priest is siting in corner and smoking, because he have nothing. even dps rp is 2 ppl max on server , dont know if they even still play.
DPS RPs dont exist, and if they did order WBs would kick them in a heartbeat
that what i mean, why some clases has special priority and some clases/builds are not welcome. rp bringed heal debuff btw, byt zealot has it all and better. 5 sec res :lol: like someone will wait while u ress something for 5 sec. while zealot has winds (its not about shamans thread its about overall)
i hope balancer team dont live with thought - i dislike runepriest , byt i whant my fun with my shaman. (same as bg and ib) or slayer get nerfs only after 24 aoe. till that slayers was top dps byt 9 targets (less if they spread) and get nerfhammer spellbreaker. ppl demand nerf this nerf that from 1vs1. so now we are in situation when some clases has special atention and some not . i play x class i got killed nerf it when highest gear was devastator/anni. byt gear increased so maby time to revert back changes? some of tham still stay when t2/3 was highest
shamans and am anyway are gods in t1
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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#52 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:45 pm

If u expect any quality balance from Dev team just keep dreaming
GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER
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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#53 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:53 pm

ravezaar wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:45 pm If u expect any quality balance from Dev team just keep dreaming
Hopefully a certain player will come up with something and save the entire server :-)

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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#54 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:16 pm

Paxsanarion wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:53 pm
ravezaar wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:45 pm If u expect any quality balance from Dev team just keep dreaming
Hopefully a certain player will come up with something and save the entire server :-)
G-man?

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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#55 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:18 pm

A quick reminder to turn the discussion back to the OP's original point and stay on topic - things are getting a bit disrespectful and rude.

Please, also refrain from naming & shaming or spreading other malicious rumors or conspiracy theories.

Thank you!

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Tisaya
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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#56 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:02 pm

If the game isn't balanced around 1 vs 1, then those hordes of shamans (isn't it ironic how so many players are attracted to such weak class) won't mind 1 vs 1 shaman potential being nerfed? Since 1 vs 1 doesn't matter anyway.
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Lareal
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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#57 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:20 am

“ well they get free 240 toughness free 110 int free 25% detaunt free 30% movespeed”

Lol, please quit saying “free”. The toughness hot is a 15 point heal tree ability- hardly free. Speed buff and detaunt are two aeparate tactics. Almost no one uses both since they would take up half your tactics slots. Hell, most of the time I don’t run either, since I like other tactics better.

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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#58 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:41 am

Tisaya wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:02 pm If the game isn't balanced around 1 vs 1, then those hordes of shamans (isn't it ironic how so many players are attracted to such weak class) won't mind 1 vs 1 shaman potential being nerfed? Since 1 vs 1 doesn't matter anyway.
But why nerf something that doesn't need nerfing? Did a shaman kill you?

Truth is most people lose 1v1 fights because they don't know what to do. If you are used to fighting with a group or a WB (which is what this game is about), then your build will be optimized for that type of play, not 1v1. So when you fight someone who has an optimized 1v1 build, then you will surely lose.

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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#59 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:18 am

jafh123 wrote: Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:41 am
Tisaya wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:02 pm If the game isn't balanced around 1 vs 1, then those hordes of shamans (isn't it ironic how so many players are attracted to such weak class) won't mind 1 vs 1 shaman potential being nerfed? Since 1 vs 1 doesn't matter anyway.
But why nerf something that doesn't need nerfing? Did a shaman kill you?

Truth is most people lose 1v1 fights because they don't know what to do. If you are used to fighting with a group or a WB (which is what this game is about), then your build will be optimized for that type of play, not 1v1. So when you fight someone who has an optimized 1v1 build, then you will surely lose.
1v1 is mainly about specs that counter the others spec. Dps shaman does well against most, hence people are crying about it. You're playing spec that does well to dps shamans. As stated before if you're facing a hybrid shaman it will be a stalemate since neither of you do enough dmg to kill each other. Some classes do super well to others and wise versa that's how you win in solo. People tend to go toughness regen specs because atleast that helps them close the cap between counter classes but in return makes very dull solo play..

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Re: Tone down shaman

Post#60 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:54 am

Hazmy wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:41 pm Hey there,

Please try to keep it civil and respectful towards other players.
good luck with this wish
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