I am a returning player, i want to roll a new toon because i remember nothing about the game , was wondering what do you recommend me as dps for order ? i am undecided between WL and AM both i read both were nerfed, and don't want to reach high level only to find my toon is not competitive . I like WL because the theme of the class and the pet, but i have also read after a patch pet as been bugged in the pathing. AM i like because you can both heal and dps, how is in both role compared to other classes?
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Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
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Re: Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
Lion is prob only working mdps on order rigth now for mass pvp,due to slay nerf, but yes pet is completely insane and we still waiting for fix. AM used only as solo roam dps, and u need bis gear for it to be effective. In group play nobody will take u on dps spot agains any serious treath. It more based on what u want to do in game, if u want only dps and join guild/warband then lion, if solo roam then am is better, but in group play hes a healer. U can roll tank, they always on demand and do st dmg comparable to dps with 2h+ton of cc and dont suffer that much from meta shifts.
Noximilien - AM, Severi - SM, Ravandin - SW, Celebor - WL, Ernwald - WH, Demandred - BG, Mesana - Sork, Beliar - DoK.
Re: Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
Unless you roll WH ur probs fine
Re: Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
Remind me, which tank does a st dmg comparable to say wl, or aSW? Or say to bw?Sever1n wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:26 pm U can roll tank, they always on demand and do st dmg comparable to dps with 2h+ton of cc and dont suffer that much from meta shifts.
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Re: Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
Thank you very much. SO what classes can u suggest order side? at this point i'm open to all roles, but please not dwarf (am dwarfcist yes)Sever1n wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:26 pm Lion is prob only working mdps on order rigth now for mass pvp,due to slay nerf, but yes pet is completely insane and we still waiting for fix. AM used only as solo roam dps, and u need bis gear for it to be effective. In group play nobody will take u on dps spot agains any serious treath. It more based on what u want to do in game, if u want only dps and join guild/warband then lion, if solo roam then am is better, but in group play hes a healer. U can roll tank, they always on demand and do st dmg comparable to dps with 2h+ton of cc and dont suffer that much from meta shifts.
Re: Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
Honestly, whatever you like. We are in the middle of an Ability Rework so who knows what classes will look like in the future.
Right now all tanks are good, all healers are good, WLs and BWs are stronger in warbands then the rest but its not the case for all types of content. It depends on what you wanna do. Are you gonna play smallscale? Solo? Gonna join WBs?
Right now all tanks are good, all healers are good, WLs and BWs are stronger in warbands then the rest but its not the case for all types of content. It depends on what you wanna do. Are you gonna play smallscale? Solo? Gonna join WBs?
Re: Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
Kotbs - easiest tank for start. Good group utility strong with shield, have less dmg than other tanks in 2h but still not bad.
WH - prob best solo class have all instruments for asasination and diferent skillbuilds, can be little tricky ta master but fun. They are not used in mass pvp but good as single target dps in skirmishes.
BW - glasscanon mage with insane burst in single target or can be played something like melle mass damager. If u dont have atleast pocket healer- dont start one. They completely rely on others. But they are deal massive dps and can ontshine WL in rvr.
WP - easiest heal, but prob most effective one in numbers. Very hard defended. Have shield and 2h spec that turn him in vampiric single target damager but they are not used in mass rvr as dps. Some people really enjoy that 2h heavy armor sigmar worshiping.
SM - Strong tank with pretty hard forn newcomers mechanic of stance dancing. Deal ton of spirit dmg and prob hardest hiting tank on game. But not that great defencively in 2h. Have fun jumping morale. In shield is very viable and provide some uniq stuff fro group/warband. Due to combos dont recomend as 1st char, but if u manage to lear him it will pay off.
WL - straight up warrior with some pet shenanigans. Have big burst, easy to play, viable in skirmishes/rvr even solo with regen build. Sadly pet atm completely ruined and all lion w8 for fix playing with tactics that increase dmg but removes pet. Good starter class, high demand, and order comletely rdps heavy with low frontline chars
SW - Prob trickiest of all dps atm. Can be armorer version of hat and hut targets similiar but tades whs percs for some ability to shoot. Have pure archer spec that have lower than bw dps output but it not that dependsnt on group. Have aoe spec that makes u do basicaly what legolas did in movies - mass aoe dmg and kite. But his class mechanics is stance switching and can be hard to learn. They also not that popular in groups espesially if youre undergeared. Order have TON of bad SW and few good. Dont recomend as starting class but really good as second or third.
AM - Least protected heal in game but on pair with sham god of crosshealing. Have strong DPS spec that turns him into mage with ability to sustaine himself and dot people in rvr into oblivion in 1vs1. But when comes to group play his dps spec near uselles, becouse he dont have specific too; as other classes to kill skilled people efectively. If u looking for heal i would recommend AM last, hes prob harders heal ingame due his squshines. RP far more good as starter pure heal, and WP if u plan to gear up his dps specs after healing. But if you want to roam solo AM is one of best chars for it.
Choose what u like all classes have role and purpose
WH - prob best solo class have all instruments for asasination and diferent skillbuilds, can be little tricky ta master but fun. They are not used in mass pvp but good as single target dps in skirmishes.
BW - glasscanon mage with insane burst in single target or can be played something like melle mass damager. If u dont have atleast pocket healer- dont start one. They completely rely on others. But they are deal massive dps and can ontshine WL in rvr.
WP - easiest heal, but prob most effective one in numbers. Very hard defended. Have shield and 2h spec that turn him in vampiric single target damager but they are not used in mass rvr as dps. Some people really enjoy that 2h heavy armor sigmar worshiping.
SM - Strong tank with pretty hard forn newcomers mechanic of stance dancing. Deal ton of spirit dmg and prob hardest hiting tank on game. But not that great defencively in 2h. Have fun jumping morale. In shield is very viable and provide some uniq stuff fro group/warband. Due to combos dont recomend as 1st char, but if u manage to lear him it will pay off.
WL - straight up warrior with some pet shenanigans. Have big burst, easy to play, viable in skirmishes/rvr even solo with regen build. Sadly pet atm completely ruined and all lion w8 for fix playing with tactics that increase dmg but removes pet. Good starter class, high demand, and order comletely rdps heavy with low frontline chars
SW - Prob trickiest of all dps atm. Can be armorer version of hat and hut targets similiar but tades whs percs for some ability to shoot. Have pure archer spec that have lower than bw dps output but it not that dependsnt on group. Have aoe spec that makes u do basicaly what legolas did in movies - mass aoe dmg and kite. But his class mechanics is stance switching and can be hard to learn. They also not that popular in groups espesially if youre undergeared. Order have TON of bad SW and few good. Dont recomend as starting class but really good as second or third.
AM - Least protected heal in game but on pair with sham god of crosshealing. Have strong DPS spec that turns him into mage with ability to sustaine himself and dot people in rvr into oblivion in 1vs1. But when comes to group play his dps spec near uselles, becouse he dont have specific too; as other classes to kill skilled people efectively. If u looking for heal i would recommend AM last, hes prob harders heal ingame due his squshines. RP far more good as starter pure heal, and WP if u plan to gear up his dps specs after healing. But if you want to roam solo AM is one of best chars for it.
Choose what u like all classes have role and purpose
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Noximilien - AM, Severi - SM, Ravandin - SW, Celebor - WL, Ernwald - WH, Demandred - BG, Mesana - Sork, Beliar - DoK.
Re: Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
AM is fine defensively my .2$ say on par with shaman (personally i think it’s easier bc dest classes don’t burst like order or have x2 knights shatter)
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IB (using right buttons not only mindlessly reapply buffs debuffs) > Knight (that t use cc proper way and control)> SM (low skill ceiling) …. (hard to easy) all tanks are welcomed if you pick one for solo I think IB is the must fun (and most challenging)
Slayer iMHO is the melee to play on order still is and always will be even with adjustments (most are just used to being op without even knowing it and having everything in one build)
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Slayer iMHO is the melee to play on order still is and always will be even with adjustments (most are just used to being op without even knowing it and having everything in one build)
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7
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Re: Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
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Re: Returning player, how the balance status of classes?
I'd suggest you to go as AM for "solo lol" and leech some renown or SM.
WL is the best dps atm for Order and yet it's broken and weak so you won't have much fun in solo, only being part of a group or play in wbs or doing scs.
Also, Order has lower pop most of the time actually. So play smart and have lots of potions.
WL is the best dps atm for Order and yet it's broken and weak so you won't have much fun in solo, only being part of a group or play in wbs or doing scs.
Also, Order has lower pop most of the time actually. So play smart and have lots of potions.
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