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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#41 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:43 pm

Sunday night for example, order had 20% aao and destro was 150+ ahead in kills in Ostland. So Start of our event we formed Order. Due to Freebootaz logging and another organised order wb forming at the same time, within 30 minutes destro had 100% aao. One WB called their event early (VII) due to boredom, while we roamed around for ages with nothing to fight due to being unable to swap to destro (lockout). I didn't see anyone from destro log to order, they just queued for scs instead or logged off.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#42 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:05 pm

Evilspinnre wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:43 pm Sunday night for example, order had 20% aao and destro was 150+ ahead in kills in Ostland. So Start of our event we formed Order. Due to Freebootaz logging and another organised order wb forming at the same time, within 30 minutes destro had 100% aao. One WB called their event early (VII) due to boredom, while we roamed around for ages with nothing to fight due to being unable to swap to destro (lockout). I didn't see anyone from destro log to order, they just queued for scs instead or logged off.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#43 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:01 am

All the accusations of "NA Order/Destro only plays like this" doesn't make sense, because who dictates how a faction will behave that night are the WB leaders. When we have good WB leaders playing on both sides its fun, but when we don't it sucks.

As it has been pointed out earlier in this thread - we need more leaders during NA, specially Destro.

"How to lead" guides, incentives from the devs for pugleading, i dunno. Address the leading issue and NA will get better.

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#44 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:24 am

Darks63 wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:17 am
normanis wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 4:06 pm destro need na time zone wb leader. and its will do miracle. its hard work to lead byt someone need to do it.
People have stepped up from time to time over the years but they quickly get sick of how quickly NA destro players give up.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#45 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:09 pm

Phantasm wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:31 pm
It has been abused in forts but I think someone got a warning and that not happening again. Like I said, if something is abused there is a report button and GMs thirsty for some action too. As there is no realm pride on certain times of a day or night, we rely on xrealmers then.
This isn’t bannable and is still done today.

It’s a hard one - if it’s completely balanced then there will be no zone progress. If it’s unbalanced to the point where you get swamped in every fight it’s dull. Personally anything up to 60% aao and we can still fight, yes usually on the defence but it’s still fun and the rewards are good.

I’d either do a middle of the night reset and make guilds plan what night to go out on each side (I’m sure we could all plan it better) or do a 15 min from point of log off.

Anything else is too open to pushing one side and then swapping for easy defence which is what a lot of the xrealmer guilds really want
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#46 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:12 pm

Why are you so upset? the game is almost dead, at peak times 200-300 people are online. T1 you are bored to death because there are hardly any opponents, in the other tiers Destro is almost constantly outnumbered.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#47 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:31 pm

That was mainly due to the EU staying up late to push campaign and some promotional videos. Summer peak eu has been around 7-800 so not dead by a long way.

Totally get that outside of eu prime time it’s order dominated - as other people have said - needs a committed NA destro wb leader and some people to support them.
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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#48 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:42 pm

Here is how I see every night go. Order has aao.. Jempire logs in and forms WB. Wipes 2 destro wbs. Destro completely disappears except for Burnheart. How do you fix that?

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#49 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:01 pm

Garamore wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:31 pm That was mainly due to the EU staying up late to push campaign and some promotional videos. Summer peak eu has been around 7-800 so not dead by a long way.

Totally get that outside of eu prime time it’s order dominated - as other people have said - needs a committed NA destro wb leader and some people to support them.
Needs more than a WB leader to fix the state.
Even EU times it starting to have significant order outnumbering, and that is a fast slippery slope to NA state.

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Re: Enough with Order outnumbering Destro

Post#50 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:10 pm

Starts with a warband leader - without that there’s no hope. EU day is tending to order too as there’s no destro wb leader in that time - some of that is down to eu prime being destro dominated and order avoiding it but mainly it’s down to a warband leader not playing as much on destro now they are rr100 as they used to and server not adjusting (no blame at all)
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