Remove GTDC

[lumpi33]

ramp removes primary archetype with 1 button press

and GTDC/mara pulls remove a major part of game play "positioning" with 1 button press

Both are broken. No doubt about that.

[Sinisterror]

Make undefendable mean what it did in aor and rampage also to what it was in aor. No undefendable skill that had dmg goes through morale avoidances. Sw/Sh Wh/We selfpunt/stagger and magus/engi Stagger went through morale avoidances in Live, nothing else did.

And Rampage didngt go though Morale avoidances and certainly didnt ignore GUARD mechanic. Gtdc changed to ID or some kind of Huge Dmg aoe. Fix Petpathing give them all the grp buffs/heals again, put second range check on marauder pulls.

[Andamarine]

Also, can we get Choppa DPS nerfted by 1/3 please, so he is more balanced and more in the same line with other Destro melee DPS?
Thank you.

it already happened
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/20483

Well, for the first time I thought this thread is some sorf of sarcastic comedy, so i added something funny to it as well.

I know pretty well that Order melee are much better than Destro, look at 6 months statistics:


Averages to a RvR victim (DMG%):
1) White Lion -12104
2) Slayer - 11957
3) Choppa -11044
4) Witch Hunter -9232
5) Witch Elf - 8877
6) Marauder -7147

[Tzoumarou]

not only as we see order has a major advantage in kills in rvr cause of massive better toons and skills ,not only they massively win sieges and forts,not only they forced lotd changes in a blink of an eye cause they are the dominant faction and they do w/e they want ...but they in the same time come here and demand even more things cause why not??
when u are pampered that much and for so long time ofc u gonna ask for more and more and more till the point theres nothing left.
on the other hand i blame grufrip and his 12 man max "massive blob" that makes order cry oceans of tears...(while he hardly play 3-4 times per week and never on weekends).

lets get serious now though. you are pampered orderlings.pls dotn stop amusing us with your demands while all you wanna achieve is to not have your overpowered skills in every single toon you have ,nerfed.
its a good tactic that works perfect. enjoy hitting doors 18 hours per day and then hide in keeps for the rest 6 and abuse rampage cause you are uncapable to fight EVEN so massively overpowered and pampered.

well played ...but its not your fault actually.we all know whos fault it is that let this situation going on 2 years now and not only they dont do anything about it but on the other hand they keep on pampering you more and more and more.
little babies thats what you are...a bunch of spoiled little crying babies.

[Sofong]

Also, can we get Choppa DPS nerfted by 1/3 please, so he is more balanced and more in the same line with other Destro melee DPS?
Thank you.

it already happened
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/20483

Well, for the first time I thought this thread is some sorf of sarcastic comedy, so i added something funny to it as well.

I know pretty well that Order melee are much better than Destro, look at 6 months statistics:


Averages to a RvR victim (DMG%):
1) White Lion -12104
2) Slayer - 11957
3) Choppa -11044
4) Witch Hunter -9232
5) Witch Elf - 8877
6) Marauder -7147

BUT, BUT, BUT..... PULL IS OP!!!!!! MUST BE REMOVED FROM GAME!!!!!

[Scottx125]

Also, can we get Choppa DPS nerfted by 1/3 please, so he is more balanced and more in the same line with other Destro melee DPS?
Thank you.

it already happened
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/20483

Well, for the first time I thought this thread is some sorf of sarcastic comedy, so i added something funny to it as well.

I know pretty well that Order melee are much better than Destro, look at 6 months statistics:


Averages to a RvR victim (DMG%):
1) White Lion -12104
2) Slayer - 11957
3) Choppa -11044
4) Witch Hunter -9232
5) Witch Elf - 8877
6) Marauder -7147

That doesn't prove anything. Where did the kills occur? Under what circumstances? Everyone knows destro is king of CC ATM. Meaning they have the advantage in open fights able to more easily control and disengage when they wish. Order is king of narrow choke point fights due to the slayer ability, rampage I think it's called. The problem isn't GTDC. It's the fact that it's placed on such a useful class. Meanwhile order gets Engi, I wouldn't bring more than one to a WB. Yet destro can easily bring 4-6 choppas no problems. It'd be like giving slayer GTDC. Imagine if destro only had Magus with GTDC and the AOE KD/Stun.

[Dackjanielz]

"enjoy hitting doors 18 hours per day and then hide in keeps for the rest 6 and abuse rampage cause you are uncapable to fight EVEN so massively overpowered and pampered."

We are so overpowered that we PVE keeps when destro is offline then hide in keeps and warcamps when you're online?......

Whut?

Anyway this tit for tat attitude is exactly why im trying to be fair in my suggestion.
We sacrifice rampage - You sacrifice GTDC.
50 / 50

We both lose something we both gain something - thumbs up.

[Andamarine]

Where did the kills occur? Under what circumstances?

Circumstances are pretty clear from the filters.

Kills occured in RvR, including all RR characters, in all RvR zones, in all timezones, including all solo kills.
Or do want me to study each RvR zone alon or stats for different timezones US/CHINA/EU separately?

I don't know what it proves to you but I play EvE online for 15 years and studying killboards is something that is essencial for every alliance to survive in the game. You need study you enemy before fighting him. So for me killboard data means a lot, a lot more than a subjective posting about "fun" in game.

[Tzoumarou]

"enjoy hitting doors 18 hours per day and then hide in keeps for the rest 6 and abuse rampage cause you are uncapable to fight EVEN so massively overpowered and pampered."

We are so overpowered that we PVE keeps when destro is offline then hide in keeps and warcamps when you're online?......

Whut?

Anyway this tit for tat attitude is exactly why im trying to be fair in my suggestion.
We sacrifice rampage - You sacrifice GTDC.
50 / 50

We both lose something we both gain something - thumbs up.

pls start crying to devs to delete both of this skills. we destros beg you to do so...

as for the others you said i just lol and wait till your massive overtuned blobs stop hitting doors so we can login and see your guys waiting at keeps to once more abuse your massively overtuned and pampered skills
.just like you did as we speak at reikland.reality onwed...

[Sofong]

"enjoy hitting doors 18 hours per day and then hide in keeps for the rest 6 and abuse rampage cause you are uncapable to fight EVEN so massively overpowered and pampered."

We are so overpowered that we PVE keeps when destro is offline then hide in keeps and warcamps when you're online?......

Whut?

Anyway this tit for tat attitude is exactly why im trying to be fair in my suggestion.
We sacrifice rampage - You sacrifice GTDC.
50 / 50

We both lose something we both gain something - thumbs up.

GTDC is a 13pt ability, rampage is a 5pt ability, GTDC is the equipvalence of ID but yeah why not? as long as choppa can have rampage im fine with it.