SC premade

[rejndjer]

Why dont you have a tank in your group?

Sorc damage alone is not enough to kill a guarded target that has enough brains to spend RR points into anti crit.

because tanks are not on-demand service on order. good tanks even less.

[ so how is it a burst in timespan of 3seconds (KD+fester, actually a little more than 3 seconds) that does measly 1k dmg to target of ~9k hp gonna help? do you people here know any basic math, or are just spewing numbers out of ass?
Your festering arrow only achieves 1k? Not sure, I haven't played SW in RoR but on the receiving end I am hit for 2-3K+ by festering arrows. 3.5K is the top festering arrow dmg I have taken in middle of a zone and not near any WC or similar. Maybe your math is fooling you

i'm gonna repeat it once again

in good scenarios, against good pugs and premade, where destro are 2/2/2, that means you either hit tank, a dps that's guarded, or healers that are all tank-specced. fester on guarded target does about

yes i can crit for 3500 dmg on bad dps players, and that's about it. problem is that there are not a lot of these players and that's ~25% crit chance, so in most cases you are not critting. non-crit hits for ~1.5k dmg. if you receive 2-3k+ from festering arrows you must be getting critted every time.

any other smart remarks?

[Cyrylius]

So, as an interesting fact, from the thread somebody posted a few days ago (viewtopic.php?f=8&t=48813) we know that order usually wins t4 SCS and possibly has more premades than destro. Just to address the thing about always losing.

[rejndjer]

i had like 90% winrate in mid-tier scenarios on my KOTBS, since i came to t4, that winrate is around 20%. admittedly i haven't played much of sc on kotbs in t4, so could be just low sample number.

[normanis]

maby dont need nerf order tanks, and buff destro tanks. so sc has eunugh tanks to choose from?
p.s i was in sc with 6 shammies (and 1 of tham was mine) it was pug sc nordenwatch

[Kpi]

So, as an interesting fact, from the thread somebody posted a few days ago (viewtopic.php?f=8&t=48813) we know that order usually wins t4 SCS and possibly has more premades than destro. Just to address the thing about always losing.

Egofarms dont worry about to lost the SCs. If u can push to sorcs, they will run to spawn and they will not worry about who win

[Sever1n]

Prems on sc should go 6vs6 ranked. Spawnfarming nooblord fiesta on events just toxic unfun waste of time. Most people start pvp ingame from sc and solo, prems just make them unistall after 20+ nochanse losestreaks. Group/solo is a big dif. Maybe sov chars should be only permitted to ranked to revive its and let newbie breath and have fun from balanced figths.

[Cyrylius]

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate and say that while I don't like the timestamps a lot sorcerers and bright Wizards do have only one viable ST build, and so there's very little they can do outside of speccing it and building a group around it.

[Sulorie]

Prems on sc should go 6vs6 ranked. Spawnfarming nooblord fiesta on events just toxic unfun waste of time. Most people start pvp ingame from sc and solo, prems just make them unistall after 20+ nochanse losestreaks. Group/solo is a big dif. Maybe sov chars should be only permitted to ranked to revive its and let newbie breath and have fun from balanced figths.

You aware that solo sov chars get farmed the same by premades?
What newbies were doing from lvl16 to 39 in SC? Do you need to start learning at 40?
You are meant to lose, if the wrong classes/players are in queue on one side. The matchmaking can do nothing in such a case.
If the players in premade would have queued solo and faced the same opposition, they would win as well.
In premade they use assist macros, the same players solo would use assist macros as well.

[jbrutal]

the worse part about these premades is when they meet premade vs premade the loser disbands haha this has nothing to do with trying be competitive its all just maxing rewards or ego.

[rejndjer]

the worse part about these premades is when they meet premade vs premade the loser disbands haha this has nothing to do with trying be competitive its all just maxing rewards or ego.

this tbh