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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#41 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:39 am

sharpblader wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:05 am
penagos22 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:49 pm I am surprised that there are people who continue to argue that the kobts should not have damage because it has a lot of utility, when to have damage it had to sacrifice that utility, and that was the fun that you could do many builds, and when you look at the people who says that are obvious biased chaos.
I belong to that group of people and I main knight.

Earlier, I argued vehemently against the nerfs but as I played more on both sides they kept making sense.

Knight is the tankiest and best group support tank in the game. To be able to do damage they should lose out on either of the two or they would be even more OP in the current meta.

There are still ways to irk out some damage from the knight but none of them are in the conquest tree.
For 3-4 years I have always played as a Knight with the main tree of CONQUEST and I still hold this opinion , but now needs much more weapon skill.

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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#42 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:58 am

You can say whatever, but a two-handed knight here is now just a shadow of a knight from the official server.

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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#43 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:29 pm

Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:39 am
sharpblader wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:05 am
penagos22 wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:49 pm I am surprised that there are people who continue to argue that the kobts should not have damage because it has a lot of utility, when to have damage it had to sacrifice that utility, and that was the fun that you could do many builds, and when you look at the people who says that are obvious biased chaos.
I belong to that group of people and I main knight.

Earlier, I argued vehemently against the nerfs but as I played more on both sides they kept making sense.

Knight is the tankiest and best group support tank in the game. To be able to do damage they should lose out on either of the two or they would be even more OP in the current meta.

There are still ways to irk out some damage from the knight but none of them are in the conquest tree.
For 3-4 years I have always played as a Knight with the main tree of CONQUEST and I still hold this opinion , but now needs much more weapon skill.
but I don't understand you, you say that the kobts can do dps but not in conquest now you tell me that you have been playing in conquest for years and that path is ok?

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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#44 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:37 pm

tazdingo wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:33 am
Tesq wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:12 am
tazdingo wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:51 am every class has 1 useless tree. some have 2
Stating obvious things that should get fix after 8 years of project not gona make em chill about kobs problems.

what problems? #1 most desired class in game for all content. statistically best sc class in game. why does everyone want to turn tanks into mdps for wusses like how dps sham/am are just people without the balls to play proper rdps?
It shouldn't matter how I play my class as long as it fulfills my roll, if I play a tank and want to do damage, the only thing that should matter is if I change my guard, if I taunt and if I use challenge; the same if I play a dps it shouldn't matter if I do it in area or in single target or if I'm a healer with a dps spec the same with the healers it shouldn't matter if I do it by casting or with lifetaps; that thought is one of the reasons that doesn't let people have fun, everyone ends up trying hard and playing as other people impose it on them; If a class or specialization is weak or strong, there is no need to rework or remove tactics, simply change the numbers, an acceptable point.

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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#45 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm

penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:29 pm
Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:39 am
sharpblader wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:05 am

I belong to that group of people and I main knight.

Earlier, I argued vehemently against the nerfs but as I played more on both sides they kept making sense.

Knight is the tankiest and best group support tank in the game. To be able to do damage they should lose out on either of the two or they would be even more OP in the current meta.

There are still ways to irk out some damage from the knight but none of them are in the conquest tree.
For 3-4 years I have always played as a Knight with the main tree of CONQUEST and I still hold this opinion , but now needs much more weapon skill.
but I don't understand you, you say that the kobts can do dps but not in conquest now you tell me that you have been playing in conquest for years and that path is ok?
If you want to do Shaman,Sorc,Witch,Choppa,Squig Herder,Zealot or not def Magus (ofc some of them not solo) this is the best path, but you need at least about 40% armor penetration or 500+ weapon skill, i had 600. Don't forget to use resistance aura in any case + regen items.

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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#46 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:00 pm

Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:29 pm
Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:39 am

For 3-4 years I have always played as a Knight with the main tree of CONQUEST and I still hold this opinion , but now needs much more weapon skill.
but I don't understand you, you say that the kobts can do dps but not in conquest now you tell me that you have been playing in conquest for years and that path is ok?
If you want to do Shaman,Sorc,Witch,Choppa,Squig Herder,Zealot or not def Magus (ofc some of them not solo) this is the best path, but you need at least about 40% armor penetration or 500+ weapon skill, i had 600. Don't forget to use resistance aura in any case + regen items.
brother I don't know if you're trolling me but I was using that build and it's like hitting with spaghetti, and in the end I went back to the shield

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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#47 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:12 pm

Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:29 pm
Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:39 am

For 3-4 years I have always played as a Knight with the main tree of CONQUEST and I still hold this opinion , but now needs much more weapon skill.
but I don't understand you, you say that the kobts can do dps but not in conquest now you tell me that you have been playing in conquest for years and that path is ok?
If you want to do Shaman,Sorc,Witch,Choppa,Squig Herder,Zealot or not def Magus (ofc some of them not solo) this is the best path, but you need at least about 40% armor penetration or 500+ weapon skill, i had 600. Don't forget to use resistance aura in any case + regen items.
besides the problem is still the same... what are my defensive cds?

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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#48 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:31 pm

penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:00 pm
Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:29 pm

but I don't understand you, you say that the kobts can do dps but not in conquest now you tell me that you have been playing in conquest for years and that path is ok?
If you want to do Shaman,Sorc,Witch,Choppa,Squig Herder,Zealot or not def Magus (ofc some of them not solo) this is the best path, but you need at least about 40% armor penetration or 500+ weapon skill, i had 600. Don't forget to use resistance aura in any case + regen items.
brother I don't know if you're trolling me but I was using that build and it's like hitting with spaghetti, and in the end I went back to the shield
Of course it was all before nerf with Vigilance and core Runefang tactic but still the Conquest path with weapon skill is best and if you missed my previous posts

Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:17 am 2h Kotbs now just for fans :geek:
Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:58 am You can say whatever, but a two-handed knight here is now just a shadow of a knight from the official server.
penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:12 pm besides the problem is still the same... what are my defensive cds?
my advice to try other class or wait for a moment or you can try shield spec with weapon skill talismans and set bonuses

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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#49 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:42 pm

Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:31 pm
penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:00 pm
Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
If you want to do Shaman,Sorc,Witch,Choppa,Squig Herder,Zealot or not def Magus (ofc some of them not solo) this is the best path, but you need at least about 40% armor penetration or 500+ weapon skill, i had 600. Don't forget to use resistance aura in any case + regen items.
brother I don't know if you're trolling me but I was using that build and it's like hitting with spaghetti, and in the end I went back to the shield
Of course it was all before nerf with Vigilance and core Runefang tactic but still the Conquest path with weapon skill is best and if you missed my previous posts

Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:17 am 2h Kotbs now just for fans :geek:
Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:58 am You can say whatever, but a two-handed knight here is now just a shadow of a knight from the official server.
penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:12 pm besides the problem is still the same... what are my defensive cds?
my advice to try other class or wait for a moment
yes, it is the smartest thing to play another class because the 2h kobts is nerfed to the ground and he was nerfed with hatred and cruelty XDDD

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Re: Why the damage imbalance between Chosen and KoTBS skills?

Post#50 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:45 pm

Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 2:31 pm
penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:00 pm
Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:46 pm
If you want to do Shaman,Sorc,Witch,Choppa,Squig Herder,Zealot or not def Magus (ofc some of them not solo) this is the best path, but you need at least about 40% armor penetration or 500+ weapon skill, i had 600. Don't forget to use resistance aura in any case + regen items.
brother I don't know if you're trolling me but I was using that build and it's like hitting with spaghetti, and in the end I went back to the shield
Of course it was all before nerf with Vigilance and core Runefang tactic but still the Conquest path with weapon skill is best and if you missed my previous posts

Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:17 am 2h Kotbs now just for fans :geek:
Battlefield wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:58 am You can say whatever, but a two-handed knight here is now just a shadow of a knight from the official server.
penagos22 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:12 pm besides the problem is still the same... what are my defensive cds?
my advice to try other class or wait for a moment or you can try shield spec with weapon skill talismans and set bonuses
no, I'm not doing pirouettes with the kobots. I better do these with another class that is not nerfed

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