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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#11 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:28 am

Its 10-0 atm - order get demoralised as as soon as the campaign resets they are 3-0 down
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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#12 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:33 am

Sofong wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:21 am some one has to push to lock zones u know, stalemate for hours is even worse.
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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#13 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:00 pm

Just revert city system like before : at least you could have frequent pop swings to push both cities, instead of the current constant zerg to get your automatic 5 star city every couple of days.

Make zerg bored pushing one star cities (the penalty for doing so was pretty effective one year ago), and start going into more healthy population numbers across the week...

Actually there is zero reason to log on other side, especially when other got zero forts taken ; you cannot even "mass' xrealm to counter and push the other city in the hours left before scheduled instances, its plain silly.

And make the new reward rules fully apply by the way ; currently the scheduling system allow zero chance for one and 2 stars city (timer is too long between two instances), you always got at least a 3 or 4 stars minimum.

Before, pushing forts, defending forts, and doing whole city instances meant something ; it was the difference between getting your sov in 1 month or one year.
Now it's simply who zerg the hardest reap all rewards, or close to that. Fort non-capped attackers are also part of the issue.

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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#14 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:49 pm

Garamore wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:06 am All apart from 1 scheduled city every other has been Altdorf. This is being driven by some of the xrealm guilds as they know defending a city and playing order is easier.

This has made the campaign totally meaningless and zones are only pushed to complete the weekly rvr quest.

Either make the city random, alternate it or put in xrealm lockout between cities (i.e you can only play 1 side till the next city)
is there a reason to xReALmER gUiLdS bother push forts ?

a reminder,city happening anyway.
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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#15 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:54 pm

Yes so they can log order and defend altdorf so they can win easier
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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#16 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:17 pm

As an NA player I got into my first city since the change last weekend. It's ok since you get ample crests elsewhere, unless you miss that game mode.

I do think the new system has promoted a one side zerg due to the weekly as well as being guaranteed a minimum 4* city. Before, the uselessness of 2* cities constantly would force an occasional reset of the paradigm.

Further increase AAO incentives and change the weekly from conquer and defend to participate and increase to like 8 or 10 keeps. Also, maybe slow the rate of star building so you get lousy 2* cities if the same side keeps pushing.

Also, order just had almost a year in the driver's seat, let destro play for a while.

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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#17 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:08 am

Fenris78 wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:00 pm Just revert city system like before : at least you could have frequent pop swings to push both cities, instead of the current constant zerg to get your automatic 5 star city every couple of days.

Make zerg bored pushing one star cities (the penalty for doing so was pretty effective one year ago), and start going into more healthy population numbers across the week...

Actually there is zero reason to log on other side, especially when other got zero forts taken ; you cannot even "mass' xrealm to counter and push the other city in the hours left before scheduled instances, its plain silly.

And make the new reward rules fully apply by the way ; currently the scheduling system allow zero chance for one and 2 stars city (timer is too long between two instances), you always got at least a 3 or 4 stars minimum.

Before, pushing forts, defending forts, and doing whole city instances meant something ; it was the difference between getting your sov in 1 month or one year.
Now it's simply who zerg the hardest reap all rewards, or close to that. Fort non-capped attackers are also part of the issue.
This........I applaud the Devs for working to find ways to spice things up. But I think the system should go back to pushing zones to unlock forts to unlock City. Instead of scheduled city.......seemed more interesting and challenging to see who could get to which city. Just my two cents :-)

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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#18 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:08 am

The main problem is the new scheduled city siege system. Like WB leader i have not any reason to push more in RVR, why i must do it if i will not push for city? It is more easy play only to defend keeps/forts/city instead of attack and get wiped assaulting a keep. In other hand, if i see i can't play the scheduled city, the result of the campaign is irrelevant to me.

The RVR is bored now, i remember when we have to push for city, and be nervous about if the siege will work or not, because we want play city, now all the game is about obtain war crest. Another thing i was missing is stay alert on soronline.us or twicht and check the front line status, or come back fast to house from job because the last Fortress is falling... now ROR is like all the games, lost its mark of singularity.

Since this was released, only there was only 14 city sieges in 38 days. I play only 2 city sieges in 38 days, and before the patch i was playing 2-3 citys per week (and similar from my guild mates). Tercio was doing 2-3 City WBs per week before the patch, and since the patch we only did 6x 12 man groups and 2x 6 man groups. Even in 03-04-2022 a 12 man was not able to queue because the city don't pop because there was not players online

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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#19 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:12 pm

The new city system for me does not work well:

1. Destro seems to have a more active pug population leading to the city always being Altdorf ( + xrealming)
2. The selected city times are mostly at times I can't play, I don't know why more are not scheduled for EU primetime, the schedule doesn't make much sense to me. I think they are just equally spaced out rather than say at EU and NA primetime slots.
3. RvR campaign loses meaning
bonus: The new update for crests in city is good!

Solutions:

1. Revert back to old system (adds meaning to RvR campaign)
2. Rotate the cities by default (for fairness, RvR campaign lost meaning anyway at this point)
3. Schedule more cities during primetime windows rather than equally spacing them out

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Re: Xrealmers logging destro to psu forts so they can log order to defend ic

Post#20 » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:32 pm

Can we please keep this thread on topic, this is about stupid xrealmers Ruining the game not about improving city. Thank you.

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