Suggestion Knight of the Blazing Sun

[diegomess]

2h Kotbs for me now almost dead class but i played for him over 2 years !

Are we really talking about the best 2H tank order side in ranked/small call/WB ?

ikr? Knight overperforms chosen in utility and supporting without much effort in both snb and 2h, only thing chosen has is better solo roam viability and more dmg but not by crazy numbers

[Battlefield]

2h Kotbs for me now almost dead class but i played for him over 2 years !

Are we really talking about the best 2H tank order side in ranked/small call/WB ?

ikr? Knight overperforms chosen in utility and supporting without much effort in both snb and 2h, only thing chosen has is better solo roam viability and more dmg but not by crazy numbers

Guard bot utility? Yeah that's why the Chosen is much more popular than Kotbs, especially 2H !
Even can say 2H Chosen now able to do without any problems 2H Kotbs

[diegomess]

Are we really talking about the best 2H tank order side in ranked/small call/WB ?

ikr? Knight overperforms chosen in utility and supporting without much effort in both snb and 2h, only thing chosen has is better solo roam viability and more dmg but not by crazy numbers

Guard bot utility? Yeah that's why the Chosen is much more popular than Kotbs, especially 2H !
Even can say 2H Chosen now able to do without any problems 2H Kotbs

i know it must suck to feel like one but you all do so much for your realm with the giant arch swing crit debuff+strong wound debuff that your entire realm can benefit, mini aoe snare (infinite snares are absurd in this game) and of course 10% more healing to your grp by doing nothing (healings are insanely OP in this game)... you get dirty tricks by just blocking easy to do with knight in any scenario and mini m4 by just pressing a button (vigilance)

chosen now has this corruptive power (dirty tricks) in the middle tree!!! but you need 2 tactics and spend on crit chance and still only giving anticrit for grp (not chosen)... you have to be in the middle of the fight criting, it synergizes well with rending blade i guess but still rending for a 13point ability is the most underwhelming expensive skill of any tank... We have more parry yea but is worthless against a slayer ball or order infinite ranged these days.

i agree knight needs a fun spec, something for dmg to make it viable for solo but then chosen needs an utility buff for rending blade for example.

[Battlefield]

ikr? Knight overperforms chosen in utility and supporting without much effort in both snb and 2h, only thing chosen has is better solo roam viability and more dmg but not by crazy numbers

Guard bot utility? Yeah that's why the Chosen is much more popular than Kotbs, especially 2H !
Even can say 2H Chosen now able to do without any problems 2H Kotbs

i know it must suck to feel like one but you all do so much for your realm with the giant arch swing crit debuff+strong wound debuff that your entire realm can benefit, mini aoe snare (infinite snares are absurd in this game) and of course 10% more healing to your grp by doing nothing (healings are insanely OP in this game)... you get dirty tricks by just blocking easy to do with knight in any scenario and mini m4 by just pressing a button (vigilance)

chosen now has this corruptive power (dirty tricks) in the middle tree!!! but you need 2 tactics and spend on crit chance and still only giving anticrit for grp (not chosen)... you have to be in the middle of the fight criting, it synergizes well with rending blade i guess but still rending for a 13point ability is the most underwhelming expensive skill of any tank... We have more parry yea but is worthless against a slayer ball or order infinite ranged these days.

i agree knight needs a fun spec, something for dmg to make it viable for solo but then chosen needs an utility buff for rending blade for example.

Kotbs needs buff for small scale rvr play but now only shield spec viable....

[sharpblader]

Runefang was very strong. 720 free stats every time you parry was pretty huge.

Chosens cant use Oppression with 2h weapon anymore and since then I havent seen a single one using relentless and daemonclaw with Oppresion.

Blazing blade DoT is supposed to do elemental damage and it can do decent damage ticks at 3 stacks.

You dont need runefang with SnB to be honest as others pointed out there are far better tactics for SnB builds.

Knight in groups is still arguably the best tank on order in both 2h and SnB. What they really suck at is doing direct damage but that doesnt mean they are bad. A direct damage buff imo will make the knight too OP given how tough they are despite the fact they lack the defensive buffs of other tanks. Mighty Soul was very strong despite the fact it caused the knight to take 15% extra damage from all sources but its removal was also more of a thematic decision because Order already has SM which does magic damage.

Runefang was feature of the Kotbs only!

Chosen can easy to use Oppression with Daemonclaw tactic in shield spec, it gives 50% parry and almost permanent Daemonclaw tactic buff 160 strength and thoughness, so why the Kotbs can't have it too !?

As i wrote before,Blazing blade' s dot is easy cleansable and after removing of Mighty soul tactic that gave FULL magic damage of the Path of Glory abilities, Blazing blade is more uesless.

2h Kotbs for me now almost dead class but i played for him over 2 years !

Im well aware of the history of 2h knights. Ive been playing mine on RoR since 2016.

I think you mean Suppression not Oppression for the Chosen.

What is your point when you say 2h knight is a dead class? Dead in RvR? Dead in city WBs? Dead in small scale? Dead in solo? The only area where the 2h knight becomes ineffective is in RvR zerg but that is an issue with all 2h tanks. Otherwise, it is strong in all game modes, even solo.

Like I said, the only thing it is really bad at is direct damage. Its not a priority because damage is not the core class role. A buff in direct damage to knight will result in them becoming OP given how tough they are and the amount of group utility they provide. A direct damage buff is very welcome if there is a trade off with survivability or utility.

[Alubert]

Are we really talking about the best 2H tank order side in ranked/small call/WB ?

ikr? Knight overperforms chosen in utility and supporting without much effort in both snb and 2h, only thing chosen has is better solo roam viability and more dmg but not by crazy numbers

Guard bot utility? Yeah that's why the Chosen is much more popular than Kotbs, especially 2H !
Even can say 2H Chosen now able to do without any problems 2H Kotbs

Are u new in ror?
2h chosen are only option. Chosen lose all his utility and main tool is only super punt. That way 2h.

[Akilinus]

Another attempt at pretending to care about smallscale balance just to get changes to fit your solo build?

[oaliaen]

chosen now has this corruptive power (dirty tricks) in the middle tree!!! but you need 2 tactics and spend on crit chance and still only giving anticrit for grp (not chosen)... you have to be in the middle of the fight criting, it synergizes well with rending blade i guess but still rending for a 13point ability is the most underwhelming expensive skill of any tank...

Yea...This explains entirely the corruptive's situation. Also having to crit as a tank is a pain in the asb. It should work like the first version being critted and not having to crit. Now almost noone plays this tactic because its very expensive in terms of gear.

[Battlefield]

Runefang was very strong. 720 free stats every time you parry was pretty huge.

Chosens cant use Oppression with 2h weapon anymore and since then I havent seen a single one using relentless and daemonclaw with Oppresion.

Blazing blade DoT is supposed to do elemental damage and it can do decent damage ticks at 3 stacks.

You dont need runefang with SnB to be honest as others pointed out there are far better tactics for SnB builds.

Knight in groups is still arguably the best tank on order in both 2h and SnB. What they really suck at is doing direct damage but that doesnt mean they are bad. A direct damage buff imo will make the knight too OP given how tough they are despite the fact they lack the defensive buffs of other tanks. Mighty Soul was very strong despite the fact it caused the knight to take 15% extra damage from all sources but its removal was also more of a thematic decision because Order already has SM which does magic damage.

Runefang was feature of the Kotbs only!

Chosen can easy to use Oppression with Daemonclaw tactic in shield spec, it gives 50% parry and almost permanent Daemonclaw tactic buff 160 strength and thoughness, so why the Kotbs can't have it too !?

As i wrote before,Blazing blade' s dot is easy cleansable and after removing of Mighty soul tactic that gave FULL magic damage of the Path of Glory abilities, Blazing blade is more uesless.

2h Kotbs for me now almost dead class but i played for him over 2 years !

Im well aware of the history of 2h knights. Ive been playing mine on RoR since 2016.

I think you mean Suppression not Oppression for the Chosen.

What is your point when you say 2h knight is a dead class? Dead in RvR? Dead in city WBs? Dead in small scale? Dead in solo? The only area where the 2h knight becomes ineffective is in RvR zerg but that is an issue with all 2h tanks. Otherwise, it is strong in all game modes, even solo.

Like I said, the only thing it is really bad at is direct damage. Its not a priority because damage is not the core class role. A buff in direct damage to knight will result in them becoming OP given how tough they are and the amount of group utility they provide. A direct damage buff is very welcome if there is a trade off with survivability or utility.

No, i mean exactly Oppression + Daemonclaw tactic with 50% parry, because only SnB Kotbs now viable and I compared shield specs. 2H Kotbs has the smallest damage in this game without any armor penetration after nerf and not viable, usefull only for premade because of buffs and punt ability. i'm trying to play now only SnB Kotbs because of 2H has crap damage and low survivability of all tanks !

[CyunUnderis]

No i mean exactly Oppression + Daemonclaw tactic with 50% parry, because only SnB Kotbs now viable and I compared shield specs. 2H Kotbs has the smallest damage in this game without any armor penetration, after the loss of vanilla Runefang (240str 240ws) and not viable, usefull only for premade because of buffs and punt ability.
i'm trying to play now only snb Kotbs, 2H crap damage and low survivability of all tanks, only morals help!

You are saying nonsense from the start : this is the combo Suppression + Mixed Defense that improves the parry by 50% (25% each).

2H Knights have the smallest damage IG, that is true, but this is not the tank's job. 2H Knight can be tanky : you just need to know how to gear it.