RR80 is too much power/could it be downscaled?

[Sulorie]

the only thing that´s really too strong is the triumpf set.
in my opinion, the jewelery belongs in slot 4.

How so? For a set only slightly better than vanq?
The jewel fits in the same slot as sentinel jewel.
If the set is so great, I would expect a lot more people doing ranked SC.

Btw, with your logic one could slot sent jewel in slot 3 and ranked jewel slot 4 with nice talismans? Now this wouldn't be too strong?

[Everdin]

Of course this game is made around progress your gear but it isn't that bad.

I currently running complete vanq on my Slayer, and of course there is a difference between this and endgame gear, but it's enough to kill rr80 players and survive. I mostly start with Conq boots+hands+belt and rest beastlord as soon as rr allows it i focus on getting vanq. Going PvE is also a valid way to get basic gear, but takes longer.

For tanks rushing to 40 and really need gear I would suggest ruin+redeye, big armor bonus, toughnes and -crit. This is not only good to tank everything but you are able to survive guard a lot longer.

[Lerris81]

the only thing that´s really too strong is the triumpf set.
in my opinion, the jewelery belongs in slot 4.

How so? For a set only slightly better than vanq?

example slayer:
5sov 4 triupf is much better than 5sov 3 warlord.
I don't think the difference should be that huge.

The jewel fits in the same slot as sentinel jewel.
If the set is so great, I would expect a lot more people doing ranked SC.

Btw, with your logic one could slot sent jewel in slot 3 and ranked jewel slot 4 with nice talismans? Now this wouldn't be too strong?

you could be right here too.

[Helwer]

Depending on class and gear it can appear kind of heavy. But keep your rr up below 40 and you will pretty easyly find organized groups that ask for players 50plus and woul will equip Vanquisher and Invader in an a reasonable time. Also finding a good guild an alliance can help with high-rr that can carry newbies with their weekly dungeon-runs or something. Sov and 80 is not all and with 25% pots/weekend events/events not such a far way to go at least to 70. Sov grind can be annoying but with beastlord and all dungeons lots of stuff to combine smart.

[tazdingo]

healers are way more skill dependant than stat dependant

tanks are absolutely fine in vanq, inv+ just give you a bigger margin of error and covers your screw ups

big **** dps need to be sponsored by a guild, everybody knows this. disparity between questionably geared solo dps and bis supported dps is the biggest in the game. yes you need to earn your gear and convince people to build around and support you but when you do you are literally a god

[zulnam]

Welcome to RoR!

For most classes, Vanquisher set is when you become somewhat competitive in RvR. You are still on the lower end, and need to play properly to survive/win, but Vanq is when you stop being dogmeat.

Depending on how you got to rank 40, it can take up to a month of casual playing to get the whole set. Much less if you have support (other toons, guild that runs warbands etc.)

Just a heads up: Vanq Gloves and Boots are now BoE, so you could ask a guildie with a bajillion vanq meds to get these for you.

It looks like it's quite a hassle but trust me, this is way better than it used to be (gold bag now gives 10 vanq meds, used to give 5). Also once you get Vanq set, RvR bags and city instances give invader medallions. And thanks to the reduced price of Invader, with a few lucky zones/cities you can be 6-piece Invader in another month. Once you're in Inv you are competitive, depending on class/spec.

Until you get to Vanq, I strongly suggest you stay with your faction zerg, play defensively, and practice positioning. Learn when to charge and when to pull back, regardless of what your blob is doing (for example: if you are 50 pug players but an organised 24-man charges into your flank, just run).

Hope this info helps a bit. Good luck!

[Sulorie]

"How so? For a set only slightly better than vanq?"

example slayer:
5sov 4 triupf is much better than 5sov 3 warlord.
I don't think the difference should be that huge.

"The jewel fits in the same slot as sentinel jewel.
If the set is so great, I would expect a lot more people doing ranked SC.

Btw, with your logic one could slot sent jewel in slot 3 and ranked jewel slot 4 with nice talismans? Now this wouldn't be too strong? "

you could be right here too.

You go with 4 sov, 4 vanq or 5 vanq 3 sov. You go for max flat dmg instead of crit anyway.
Hardly anyone plays ranked, better not remove more incentives to do ranked. It is BiS but not the single factor why someone hits hard.

[ChicagoJoe]

Don't roll into SCs as a new 40 and expect to be competitive. That doesn't happen in any RPG MMO. Also 1/2 the people doing pug SC don't use potions or have appropriate talismans assuming they have decent gear. You need vanq to be respectable in T4 Scs, something that can happen in about a month. You still need to play role and objectives. If not you are probably adding to the reasons why you lose.

People who play full off-spec (which BTW is generally hugely gear and skill focused) will get a lot of flack again because they are probably adding to the reasons any Sc is lost.

I have 10 characters at 40. I have multiple BIS 80s. I don't play them anymore. To me there is a lot of fun in the 16-39 trip, and 40rr to vanq, which can be pretty quick. However if you really want to power level fast get beastlord at 40, and then get Hunters Vale set, you get to near BIS pretty fast. You can get a Hunters Value piece every few days. It is generally a balanced utility spec.

[Lerris81]

"How so? For a set only slightly better than vanq?"

example slayer:
5sov 4 triupf is much better than 5sov 3 warlord.
I don't think the difference should be that huge.

"The jewel fits in the same slot as sentinel jewel.
If the set is so great, I would expect a lot more people doing ranked SC.

Btw, with your logic one could slot sent jewel in slot 3 and ranked jewel slot 4 with nice talismans? Now this wouldn't be too strong? "

you could be right here too.

You go with 4 sov, 4 vanq or 5 vanq 3 sov. You go for max flat dmg instead of crit anyway.
Hardly anyone plays ranked, better not remove more incentives to do ranked. It is BiS but not the single factor why someone hits hard.

I have a different opinion.
The difference between the sets is too big.
I tested Rank for three games. for me rank is totally boring.
unfortunately there is no other way around it if you want to have bis.
for me it's just a reason why you want to make a very boring format interesting.

[redsunbp]

If you are not happy with 5 sov 2 conq/vanq 2 sentinel then you will always be a terrible player and no amount of items, patches, buffs and whatnot will make you decent... different conversation