Dual weaps or 2 hander for WL?

[Joshwa70]

The speed you are so worried about probably comes from the lion. They have their own attacks.. and alot of the wl attacks add another proc from both the lion and the player, coord strike hits 4 times.. if you hit the pack one before.. they hit 6 times. this will not change with the 2 hander.. it will just hit harder. 6 hits off of one attacks plus aa from both the player and the wl. You can get hit 10 times in one gcd either way. Add a bw or kotbs buff and it can really stack up, if they are using on of their stances.. add another 10 percent proc to all those hits.

[xyeppp]

This proves nothing. And even if somehow WLs had some obscure advantage over BGs (which they don't), it doesn't matter: WAR was never balanced around 1v1.

It was regarding previous posts and to Az, so I don't really know where are you going with this?
I know it's not balanced around 1v1, but certain classes take part in the RvR and have an impact on it as well, you know. I'm with you on this one, really.
I see no problem with this myself, but want it done carefully and correctly - and I haven't seen any other class bitch about it but the BG, so maybe it could have something to do with their over the cap toughness and the last change Az did - I really don't know. You must realize, a lot of players ale little bitches like Skuzz pointed out and will cry on here.
If it makes the WLs happy and a bit better, then alright but if it would make a White Lion shred a tank that is supposed to guard your frontline on RvR (not 1v1) then maybe something is wrong in the way pet dmg on proc is being calculated from 2x1handers, or something.

[Penril]

This proves nothing. And even if somehow WLs had some obscure advantage over BGs (which they don't), it doesn't matter: WAR was never balanced around 1v1.

It was regarding previous posts and to Az, so I don't really know where are you going with this?
I know it's not balanced around 1v1, but certain classes take part in the RvR and have an impact on it as well, you know. I'm with you on this one, really.
I see no problem with this myself, but want it done carefully and correctly - and I haven't seen any other class bitch about it but the BG, so maybe it could have something to do with their over the cap toughness and the last change Az did - I really don't know. You must realize, a lot of players ale little bitches like Skuzz pointed out and will cry on here.
If it makes the WLs happy and a bit better, then alright but if it would make a White Lion shred a tank that is supposed to guard your frontline on RvR (not 1v1) then maybe something is wrong in the way pet dmg on proc is being calculated from 2x1handers, or something.

If you only see BGs complain, then maybe BGs are the problem? (and not WLs).

edit: Some classes will always have advantage over others in 1v1. Given same amount of skill, these are the outcomes you should usually see in a 1v1:

- KotBS>BO
- Mara>Slayer
- AM> All (except Shaman)
- Shaman> All (except AM)
- BW/SW> most melee classes due to kiting and ranged KD
- Tanks>mdps
- etc. etc.

I'd really like to see a GOOD BG have some duels against 2H and DW WLs.

[xyeppp]

If you only see BGs complain, then maybe BGs are the problem? (and not WLs).

Which is what I wrote like 3 posts ago, so what the fuk man? It's only BGs that complained about it, so that is maybe a culprit in something.
I know how 1v1s work and the logic behind them, man.

[Reklaw]

I would never dual wield on my WL, even if it was or is possible.

[Penril]

If you only see BGs complain, then maybe BGs are the problem? (and not WLs).

Which is what I wrote like 3 posts ago, so what the fuk man? It's only BGs that complained about it, so that is maybe a culprit in something.
I know how 1v1s work and the logic behind them, man.

Never called you retarded, don't make this personal. And i was giving out a couple 1v1 examples to everyone who reads this, not you in particular. Yeah it may have seemed that way because i quoted you first. My bad.

Regarding BGs... if there was indeed a problem with them, shouldn't they be complaining about WHs and Slayers too? In fact, shouldn't they be complaining about pretty much all order DPS classes?

My conclusions:

1) There is nothing wrong with DW WLs; otherwise, you would see BOs, Chosen and other destro classes complaining (and not only BGs).
2) There is nothing wrong with BGs; otherwise, you would see them complaining about all order DPS classes as well and not only WL's.

Therefore, i believe these are just some bad BGs that got wrecked by some good WLs. Or maybe they were like level 12-15 and the WLs were lvl 20 twinks? Who knows...

[xyeppp]

Never called you retarded, don't make this personal. And i was giving out a couple 1v1 examples to everyone who reads this, not you in particular. Yeah it may have seemed that way because i quoted you first. My bad.
Regarding BGs... if there was indeed a problem with them, shouldn't they be complaining about WHs and Slayers too? In fact, shouldn't they be complaining about pretty much all order DPS classes?

1) There is nothing wrong with DW WLs; otherwise, you would see BOs, Chosen and other destro classes complaining (and not only BGs).

Therefore, i believe these are just some bad BGs that got wrecked by some good WLs.

Except maybe something with the proc coding on hit with dual wield is messed up from dual wield, or some other weird bug. That is what I meant - I'm not even complaining about this because quite frankly, I don't care nor play a Blackguard but to be fair to all classes and only seeing BGs complain about it I just thought maybe it was worth to mention.

I'm not making this personal man don't worry, that was just me pointing out that I don't think I'm a bad player and know the logic behind duels and who wins who.
I'm chill about this, peace and love man

[Penril]

I'm chill about this, peace and love man

<3

[Joshwa70]

the ten percent proc from the 2nd hand weapon every 2.8 seconds. watch out.. every 30 seconds you are taking an extra 133 of damage that can be mitigated. GAME BREAKER!!!! nerf them into the ground so bg's dont take the extra 32 damage twice a minute.

[xyeppp]

the ten percent proc from the 2nd hand weapon every 2.8 seconds. watch out.. every 30 seconds you are taking an extra 133 of damage that can be mitigated. GAME BREAKER!!!! nerf them into the ground so bg's dont take the extra 32 damage twice a minute.

Ok.
I don't think them taking extra 32 damage twice a minute would cause them to complain about, quote, getting "shredded" and "destroyed" by a WL on /advice.
Relax man - this might not even be a report and the BGs were **** terrible. You take something I've never said and make it a 100% definite, I just found it very strange to only find three BGs report an issue with a WL - maybe it wasn't even true like I already pointed out - about five times.