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utharge
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Re: What is the point of playing a ranged DPS?

Post#11 » Tue May 25, 2021 12:09 pm

Whyumadbro wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:57 am so sorcs/bw engi/magus and sh/sw should have a blink or something?
A blink would fit very well for sorcs and bw. But that's not the solution. Id start with nerfing guard to ranged damage and nerfing their mechanic. Because bw/sorc damage with 100% energy is actually overpowered on random and unguarded players. They are the hardest classes to balance.

Engi and SW would be easier. SWs need access to the finisher in scout when playing skirmish and need BA back in assault OR more range for split arrow. Engi Im not so sure but the granades are a bit weak and on ranged they have the problem with the armor - which the magus dont have.

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utharge
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Re: What is the point of playing a ranged DPS?

Post#12 » Tue May 25, 2021 12:11 pm

Esperflame wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:05 pm All physical ranged classes bring an awesome tactic that debuffs block, parry and dodge which is pretty damn awesome.
The are ranged DPS classes, not ranged Utility classes....

Mergrim
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Re: What is the point of playing a ranged DPS?

Post#13 » Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pm

utharge wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:00 pm
Mergrim wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:41 am SW can:
-Self punt with aoe root 40%
-M1 clean all dots/curse etc and 250ap regen
-M2 aoe root 60% for 9sec and 900dmg
-St slow 40% 65feet
-M1 7sec immune to range and MAGIC attack
-can put dots on you...lol:D this is best argument here
- can switch stance and have medium armor
- can put armor talisman in slot that give you x2 armor:D
- can disarm for 4sec in assault, silence on scout 4sec(100feet range), st knock 100feet range any spec.
-can spam barrage with whispering wind and drain all enemy morale:D
-have charge on assault spec that improve defensive skill by 15%
-can down any WE in assault stance easy:D
-can deal top dmg on city
-can stack BA on 24target with tactic:D
- can spam heal debuff without cd:D
and more...

it's l2p issue nothing else. If you think melle is better just roll one.
Regarding CC SW is probably better than BW and Engi but you make it sound better as it is. How good is a snare or knock back when they pull you right back or break your knock back with knock down? How good is a 7s immunity to range and magic when there are mostly melees hitting you? How good is BA arrow when it is armor dependent and you need to apply them three times for little damage. Yet it can be easily cleansed.

Nah, it is not a l2p issue. It is a class and balance issue. The group setups in ranked and cities show you that very clearly.
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Special for you...its l2p issue...try to cleanse whole BA dots on fort:D with new ww you can prebuff SW and they just melt everything on your way with barrage spam...there is a reason why ppl run city with sw+sm mix now.

utharge
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Re: What is the point of playing a ranged DPS?

Post#14 » Tue May 25, 2021 12:15 pm

Did you just use a screenshot with 412 to 88 kills for destro to argue that SWs are fine? Compare the death blows... Destro melee DPS stomped them into the ground. Thank you for providing an example how op melee dps is. SW dots are just fluff damage.

Mergrim
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Re: What is the point of playing a ranged DPS?

Post#15 » Tue May 25, 2021 12:21 pm

utharge wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 12:15 pm Did you just use a screenshot with 412 to 88 kills for destro to argue that SWs are fine? Compare the death blows... Destro melee DPS stomped them into the ground. Thank you for providing an example how op melee dps is. SW dots are just fluff damage.
Nah just want you show city when they farm us and still able to be top dmg as a range sw...
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Here is equal city.

Problem is quality of players that play sw/engi/bw/sorc/magius/sgquig. 90% of them are just weak.(sw 95%)

sighy
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Re: What is the point of playing a ranged DPS?

Post#16 » Tue May 25, 2021 12:24 pm

BW/Sorc having to give an arm and a leg, for dps, which is easily matched by other less masochistic classes is a problem, sure. But is it a power creep problem, where they fell behind or an insufficient survivability problem?

Engi/Magus are fine if a bit nishe, SW is fine on the very powerful end of things, SH remains to be seen after the dust settles down given the recent major nerfs.

Sulorie
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Re: What is the point of playing a ranged DPS?

Post#17 » Tue May 25, 2021 12:27 pm

Record your play and show why rdps are bad, then we have something to talk about.
Git gud talk or silly comparisons what class x has to offer don't lead to a reasonable conclusion.
Dying is no option.

CptEdward
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Re: What is the point of playing a ranged DPS?

Post#18 » Tue May 25, 2021 2:13 pm

He didn't mentionned the MSH because he must have read the last patch tho.

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Re: What is the point of playing a ranged DPS?

Post#19 » Tue May 25, 2021 2:37 pm

Just another bait thread. Ya'll got hooked.
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