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havartii
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#71 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:11 am

If your a shaman you have to run away...but they nerfed that..sadchamp
Order: 80 AM / 77 RP/ 75 Knight
Destro: 82 Sham / 80 Zealot/ 80 DoK

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balvor877
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#72 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:17 am

havartii wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:11 am If your a shaman you have to run away...but they nerfed that..sadchamp
Well "Centuries of Training" hits like a wet noodle. Welcome to the club.

sighy
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#73 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:08 am

Kind of intriguing, how Order seems to think that Shamans have something like 15 tactic slots... Sure they got quite the few viable options, for facilitating different playstyles, but they usually have to commit 100% to doing that specific specialised thing. Just like healing AM can basically never run out of ap, if he specs for it.

havartii
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#74 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:49 am

Their moral pump is highly under rated as well, is single target but very fast and effective. And only takes 1 tactic slot :geek:
Order: 80 AM / 77 RP/ 75 Knight
Destro: 82 Sham / 80 Zealot/ 80 DoK

Mordd
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#75 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:49 am

balvor877 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:01 am I meant what they have over dps AMs. But enlighten me.. what makes the dps AM better than the dps shaman? Having a quick look the shaman has getn smarter int and gork sez stop over the AM.
Shamys are better vs anything BUT an AM. This is why shammys say AMs are better. AMs can cleans shammy dots. Shammys cant cleans AM dots.
So AMs kill shammys, but shammys are better vs any other class.

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CountTalabecland
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#76 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:05 pm

Kloaner wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:03 am
CountTalabecland wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:57 pm Until Order actually brings a decent comp of Tank, RP/WP, Slayer and play to their strengths, no amount of balancing will fix it unless ppl are outright banned from playing RDPS and are forced into tank, heal, Slayer.
What he says, just delete all Classes on Order except for Slayer, Knight, SM, RP and WP so People can stop worry about Balance.
I wish they would buff/fix all the worthless Order classes too, until then you can either whine on the forum or realistically assess your options in-game and play the strong classes.
Brynnoth Goldenbeard (40/80) (IB) -- Rundin Fireheart (40/50) (RP) -- Ungrinn (40/40) (Engi)-- Bramm Bloodaxe (40/83) (Slayer) and a few Empire characters here or there, maybe even an elf.

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Ninjagon
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#77 » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:26 pm

Imagine classic anonymous WB vs WB.
Destruction make melee AOE ball and run straight in.
Order is trying to go around and hit important targets - healers in the back.
Guess what usually happened?
Due to multiple choppas in destruction WB, order chars are continuously sucked into the AOE ball, where they die. Add some more control, like AOE knockback by marauder, AOE multiple punts by zealot and squig herder (with no immunity), or bomb with morales - destruction has it faster, and it is already done. How hard it is to play like that?

To counter play described above - it is possible, but it is not easy and you have to be much better. That is the imbalance i am speaking about.
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Sulorie
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#78 » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:55 pm

Those who get sucked in have guard, no?
Dying is no option.

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marafado
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#79 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:55 pm

guard!?...order is pew...pew power, dont think any proper order tank use that guard **** !
get 50% dmg from an dps xrealmer hahaha...same **** is good for the order healers too :D


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Mordd
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Re: We got balance problem? Really?

Post#80 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:26 am

and I just found from my squig.

Your moral pump list is incomplete destro has 6 pumps. squigs have one also.

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