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emiliorv
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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#11 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:38 pm

puzzolamistica wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:45 pm Before i start to talk i need to do an incipit and talking about morale.
m1 is 360 morale point m2 is 720 m3 1800 m4 3600.
a standard character get 20 morale point per second wile a destro whit morlae pump get almost 5 time this ammount, is close to 90 per second.
I was expecting some maths but: "a destro whit morlae pump get almost 5 time this ammount, is close to 90 per second" => where are the maths there?

Please remove the "mathematically" from the tittle (or show any real maths)..

Destro must be doing a nice job in RVR/SCs/Cities looking at the numbers of this crying posts...

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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#12 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:39 pm

Jinxypie wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:36 pm
Sponn wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:32 pm
Jinxypie wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:30 pm No need to reroll, just dont expect wonders against premades while solo Q.
Even while grouping for city you will get stomped, just easier to make groups on Destro.
I get it, you lack certain archetypes by choice, but its not balance problem.
I dunno I would say it is a balance problem when, assuming a normal distribution over time, all classes will balance out to be equal proportions. Which screws over Order because they need to crutch on slayers to compete. Which leaves many groups wanting for slayers to compete, because Order needs to crutch on that one class. That isn't balanced.

Where as on Destro they don't fall into these pitfalls and are allowed more freedom with their group comps, especially considering they have one more meleeballer than Order.


In the end the fact that Order can compete isn't the indicating factor that they aren't imbalanced. Having one side to crutch on one class to make a competent group where the other side doesn't is, however, is literally the definition of imbalance.
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emiliorv
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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#13 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:40 pm

Earthcake wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:34 pm That's the forum's way to argue.
Proving maths wrong with a screenshot, definitly op
Maths?? hahahah LMAO

emiliorv
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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#14 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:43 pm

Sponn wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:32 pm
Jinxypie wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:30 pm No need to reroll, just dont expect wonders against premades while solo Q.
Even while grouping for city you will get stomped, just easier to make groups on Destro.
Yes, joining a wb to afk usually gets you stomped....soon you will be a soloq again but on destro side...the fun parts is that destro soloq dont get pops to city, so GL getting your royals
Sponn wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:23 pm You can literally just afk in warbands it is so nice. Ez levels, ez gear, ez life! lolol loving it!

Sponn
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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#15 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:44 pm

emiliorv wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:43 pm
Sponn wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:32 pm
Jinxypie wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:30 pm No need to reroll, just dont expect wonders against premades while solo Q.
Even while grouping for city you will get stomped, just easier to make groups on Destro.
Yes, joining a wb to afk usually gets you stomped....soon you will be a soloq again but on destro side...the fun parts is that destro soloq dont get pops to city, so GL getting your royals
Sponn wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:23 pm You can literally just afk in warbands it is so nice. Ez levels, ez gear, ez life! lolol loving it!

Please stop misquoting me and other people you disingenuous de-railing troll. If you have something to provide to the conversation then add it, but please stop just filling up these forums with your....... whatever.


It is a waste of forum space and time for everyone.

nonfactor
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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#16 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:46 pm

wargrimnir wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:37 pm How many variations of this thread could there be?
philosophically speaking we do have a balance problem

emiliorv
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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#17 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:52 pm

Sponn wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:44 pm
emiliorv wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:43 pm
Sponn wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:32 pm

Even while grouping for city you will get stomped, just easier to make groups on Destro.
Yes, joining a wb to afk usually gets you stomped....soon you will be a soloq again but on destro side...the fun parts is that destro soloq dont get pops to city, so GL getting your royals
Sponn wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:23 pm You can literally just afk in warbands it is so nice. Ez levels, ez gear, ez life! lolol loving it!

Please stop misquoting me and other people you disingenuous de-railing troll. If you have something to provide to the conversation then add it, but please stop just filling up these forums with your....... whatever.


It is a waste of forum space and time for everyone.
All your crying threads are a waste of space for everyone....how you expect any serious answer with this kind of whinery....

PD: and yes, you spotted yourself as an easymoder who wants rewards without the need to make efforts for them, so sorry...well no sorry

M0rw47h
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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#18 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:01 pm

wargrimnir wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:37 pm How many variations of this thread could there be?
One per forum user.

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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#19 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:01 pm

Mathematically speaking, what is the average IQ of people discussing balance on this thread?
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puzzolamistica
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Re: mathematically speaking we do have a balance problem

Post#20 » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:02 pm

emiliorv wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:38 pm
puzzolamistica wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:45 pm Before i start to talk i need to do an incipit and talking about morale.
m1 is 360 morale point m2 is 720 m3 1800 m4 3600.
a standard character get 20 morale point per second wile a destro whit morlae pump get almost 5 time this ammount, is close to 90 per second.
I was expecting some maths but: "a destro whit morlae pump get almost 5 time this ammount, is close to 90 per second" => where are the maths there?

Please remove the "mathematically" from the tittle (or show any real maths)..

Destro must be doing a nice job in RVR/SCs/Cities looking at the numbers of this crying posts...
morale pump from destro is 200 every 3 sec so 200%3 is 66.666667+20 is 86,66667.

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