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agemennon675
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Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#11 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:08 am

I think its a good idea to take some utility abilities from overstacked classes and giving them to less desired careers without breaking anything between the realms since its only intra real change.
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emiliorv
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Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#12 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:15 am

Charon wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:58 am
emiliorv wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:49 am This have nothing related to "balance" => dont try to hide nerfs behind supossed balance...

If you want try to bring some kind of balance you need to look to whole realms, is stupid to look to a unique ability or this topic will end like like mosly...with each faction complaining about the unique abilities from the other and viceversa.

why you want to "bring balance" to cooldown decreasers and anything else?? because it hurts the realm you play?? what a good beginning for a supossed "balance thread"....
i like your ..."damage control activity for destruction realm" ..definitely you are one of best des forum warrior those days - hands down

And no i don't want nerf destruction ..i want more balance in current state and my proposition involve many aspects that are not highlighted here. But i see you want keep overstocking BO - is it your main maybe ??

and your activity here just prove that its important topic .. so try harder mate
My BO its lvl 9 iirc, and stopped play RoR like 3 months ago (probably for that i have more time to post now lmao)

I dont have any interest on keeping BO overstocked, really i dont care a **** about cd reducers...but this kind of topics of "lets balance the **** that hurt my realm (and anything else)" needs to stop...finally this will derail to complain over order abilities thta are better than destro...

we need to see a whole realm Vs realm if we wanna see a bigger picture.

Sundowner
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Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#13 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:17 am

emiliorv wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:15 am
Charon wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:58 am
emiliorv wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:49 am This have nothing related to "balance" => dont try to hide nerfs behind supossed balance...

If you want try to bring some kind of balance you need to look to whole realms, is stupid to look to a unique ability or this topic will end like like mosly...with each faction complaining about the unique abilities from the other and viceversa.

why you want to "bring balance" to cooldown decreasers and anything else?? because it hurts the realm you play?? what a good beginning for a supossed "balance thread"....
i like your ..."damage control activity for destruction realm" ..definitely you are one of best des forum warrior those days - hands down

And no i don't want nerf destruction ..i want more balance in current state and my proposition involve many aspects that are not highlighted here. But i see you want keep overstocking BO - is it your main maybe ??

and your activity here just prove that its important topic .. so try harder mate
My BO its lvl 9 iirc, and stopped play RoR like 3 months ago (probably for that i have more time to post now lmao)

I dont have any interest on keeping BO overstocked, really i dont care a **** about cd reducers...but this kind of topics of "lets balance the **** that hurt my realm (and anything else)" needs to stop...finally this will derail to complain over order abilities thta are better than destro...

we need to see a whole realm Vs realm if we wanna see a bigger picture.
When you suggesting everyone to play slayers to win? :mrgreen:

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Charon
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Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#14 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:20 am

agemennon675 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:08 am I think its a good idea to take some utility abilities from overstacked classes and giving them to less desired careers without breaking anything between the realms since its only intra real change.
this is one of my ideas
Karak Azgal - Haron WP
Karak Norn - Haeroon KoTBS
RoR:
- Chaeron - SM
- Nogrun - magnet eng
- Cheron - i want sorc Black Horror skill for my BW ;)

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Charon
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Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#15 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:21 am

emiliorv wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:15 am
Charon wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:58 am
emiliorv wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:49 am This have nothing related to "balance" => dont try to hide nerfs behind supossed balance...

If you want try to bring some kind of balance you need to look to whole realms, is stupid to look to a unique ability or this topic will end like like mosly...with each faction complaining about the unique abilities from the other and viceversa.

why you want to "bring balance" to cooldown decreasers and anything else?? because it hurts the realm you play?? what a good beginning for a supossed "balance thread"....
i like your ..."damage control activity for destruction realm" ..definitely you are one of best des forum warrior those days - hands down

And no i don't want nerf destruction ..i want more balance in current state and my proposition involve many aspects that are not highlighted here. But i see you want keep overstocking BO - is it your main maybe ??

and your activity here just prove that its important topic .. so try harder mate
My BO its lvl 9 iirc, and stopped play RoR like 3 months ago (probably for that i have more time to post now lmao)

I dont have any interest on keeping BO overstocked, really i dont care a **** about cd reducers...but this kind of topics of "lets balance the **** that hurt my realm (and anything else)" needs to stop...finally this will derail to complain over order abilities thta are better than destro...

we need to see a whole realm Vs realm if we wanna see a bigger picture.
so you are just bore and like to troll ..ok keep it doing... enjoy. Topic will notice more acctivity.... thx in advance



AND Dear guests try just focus on the topic ..we dont need next general realm vs reals war here ...leave it for Emiliorv pls ;)
Karak Azgal - Haron WP
Karak Norn - Haeroon KoTBS
RoR:
- Chaeron - SM
- Nogrun - magnet eng
- Cheron - i want sorc Black Horror skill for my BW ;)

emiliorv
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Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#16 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:35 am

Charon wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:20 am
agemennon675 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:08 am I think its a good idea to take some utility abilities from overstacked classes and giving them to less desired careers without breaking anything between the realms since its only intra real change.
this is one of my ideas
Your idea is => the only CD decreaser in order is the least played tank lets move the CD decreaser from BO to BG to hurt the opposite faction...what a cool "balance"

We destro really apreciate your wish to make us a better balanced realm, buy why dont you start to balance your own realm?? you are the ones with most unbalanced classes across your own realm...for example:
Why you dont make a "balance topic" to remove wounds buff from WP and give it to AM?? its a good idea to take some utility abilities from overstacked classes and giving them to less desired careers without breaking anything between the realms since its only intra real change.

Why you dont make a "balance topic" to remove shatter limbs from slayer and give it to WH?? its a good idea to take some utility abilities from overstacked classes and giving them to less desired careers without breaking anything between the realms since its only intra real change.

emiliorv
Posts: 1341

Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#17 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:39 am

teiloh wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:08 am
emiliorv wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:05 am

I have said several times that im up for a total trade of abilities between order and destro. => 100% for everything (tactics/morales/abilities/etc)

If you want to balance realms im ok, but do it looking the whole realms => this posts of "supossed balance" where the OP look at only 1 unique ability that hurts the realm he plays its anything but "balance"
And like I said before, former Destro will get roflstomped. Maybe all the gear they farmed with years of advantage will still help. I'd be more than happy to give it a few months.
I suposse that this take too much work, but could be really awesome.

Mergrim
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Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#18 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:40 am

The main problem with adding extra skill to other class is that the Order classes got more benefit from reduce cd.
For example:
-Slayer can spam ID.
-SW can spam Barrage in skrimish, Fastering Arrow in scout, Brutal Assault in assault spec:p
-WL can spam Lion fury

np to add extra reduce cd skill to other order class if you make some skills not affected by cd modification abilites like mara Thunderous blow or ST dok/wp heal.

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Sundowner
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Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#19 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:54 am

Mergrim wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:40 am The main problem with adding extra skill to other class is that the Order classes got more benefit from reduce cd.
For example:
-Slayer can spam ID.
-SW can spam Barrage in skrimish, Fastering Arrow in scout, Brutal Assault in assault spec:p
-WL can spam Lion fury

np to add extra reduce cd skill to other order class if you make some skills not affected by cd modification abilites like mara Thunderous blow or ST dok/wp heal.
what's lion fury tho?

Mergrim
Posts: 253

Re: Cooldown decreasing abilities - let's bring the balance

Post#20 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:45 am

Lion's Fury path of hunter combine it with Lionheart tactic and WW from sm and you got 20ap spirit dmg spam skill. Only brutal assault sw is more broken in single target melle.

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