RANKED SC (Solo and 6man) experiences, opinions

[thedonkeykong332]

How can you have low dps if you top damage charts?
When I said top I meant I'm number #1 most of the times.

even if you have a spell that does 300k damage after 6 mins only, you still rock the dps chart because u dealt 300k damage in a sec brah. lets say we divide 300k / 360 = 833 dps, but i'm going out of context here since there isn't such spell in ROR.

shaman dps = sustainable damage from dots + brain busta bunch of waaagh burst with tactic = amazing damage. whether you are being super focused in a ranked match, you still deal damage, if you have space your damage is doubled simple.

dps means damage per second. How much damage you can get into a timestamp between heals, guard strip or healer silence/stun. Shaman it is low. Thats what kills. Scoreboards are very bad basis for judging efficient damage. You can put 50k damage and kill no one or 7k and kill someone its all about the time it takes. If it was all about damage changing Magus would be #1 dps by a long margin so why do they mostly play havoc. dps.

Also Shaman have no damage morale but aoe t4. Thats a massive problem for finishing.

What does aoe m4, has anything to do with shaman for ranked ?? I don't understand
You go after people and put gork sez stop(M1), and do lots of burst + sustainable damage.
Or you can suck ap with your ap drain ability, and if you want situation aoe ap suck as well.
You can go the gork tree m4 for the 1.8k damage, knockback but its not worth a while saving for it.

and for the author of the topic you said dps shaman sucked, so I gave a good comment about why they don't suck in ranked, 6v6s situation.
and Telen and myself were having a civil discussion until this guy came talking out of his arse saying nonsense, so I gave him a simple answer and he took it personally lols.

The reason why I'm doing all of this, because there is a certain hate for dps shaman for no reason at all, a lot of mi spread information, and clueless hate, like yourself btw author. and I'm playing a shaman, so I'm tired of seeing this, BS sorry. there are situations where shamans shine and when they don't this ain't one of the moment they don't.

Shaman dps = burst+sustain
Sustain = dots
Burst = brain busta + bunch of waaagh with gork tactic.
Having knockback 2 detauns (aoe + single), heal debuff,30% movement tactic, and silence = extremely strong & viable.
Obviously good gear is required.

I am all for good discussions but when BS spreads then let the lols begin ^_^.

[SuperStar]

@Toffikx I would like to collect here every usefull experience and knowledge. I cannot even ask a specific question coz I don't have the knowledge for it.

For example your post was perfect I didn't know the champion challenge and about the zealeot is also perfect.

I would like to this topic a cool knowledge and experience database and a teaser. If you or other have time to write about add-ons about his class or win condition or the current meta or anything what I cannot even ask coz I never think about it yet it's absolute. Welcomed I would like to be this topic if a new player come here he should get a brainstorm and he find out this is the true endgame.

Télen what you doing here is a lil bit toxic now plz be usefull and share your rotaion or what do you thing how a dps am should be play in a ranked sc

Donkeygonk IAM sorry if you feel I don't like the shamies. I just wrote my opinion based on my limited experience. I know the shami can do good dmg I don't hate them. And thank you to share your knowledge.
We loved the gits

[Telen]

What does aoe m4, has anything to do with shaman for ranked ?? I don't understand
You go after people and put gork sez stop(M1), and do lots of burst + sustainable damage.
Or you can suck ap with your ap drain ability, and if you want situation aoe ap suck as well.
You can go the gork tree m4 for the 1.8k damage, knockback but its not worth a while saving for it.

I meant that dps classes have better morales earlier like squigbeast or higher damage st morales that can be the difference in a closer fight. Anyone that gets killed by GSS well should the be in ranked really?
I dont really rate the aoe drain as there are better tactics. Like I said against bad players or comps you can do great. I'll get dbs in those situations but I could have on a pure dps class and faster.

[Telen]

Télen what you doing here is a lil bit toxic

Its really not.

[SuperStar]

Télen: there is no need to argue here and convince others of your truth. No need to hurt them. Just write your truth your knowledge plz. And if a new dps am come here they can use it.

[doky]

How can you have low dps if you top damage charts?
When I said top I meant I'm number #1 most of the times.

even if you have a spell that does 300k damage after 6 mins only, you still rock the dps chart because u dealt 300k damage in a sec brah. lets say we divide 300k / 360 = 833 dps, but i'm going out of context here since there isn't such spell in ROR.

shaman dps = sustainable damage from dots + brain busta bunch of waaagh burst with tactic = amazing damage. whether you are being super focused in a ranked match, you still deal damage, if you have space your damage is doubled simple.

dps means damage per second. How much damage you can get into a timestamp between heals, guard strip or healer silence/stun. Shaman it is low. Thats what kills. Scoreboards are very bad basis for judging efficient damage. You can put 50k damage and kill no one or 7k and kill someone its all about the time it takes. If it was all about damage changing Magus would be #1 dps by a long margin so why do they mostly play havoc. dps.

Also Shaman have no damage morale but aoe t4. Thats a massive problem for finishing.

What does aoe m4, has anything to do with shaman for ranked ?? I don't understand
You go after people and put gork sez stop(M1), and do lots of burst + sustainable damage.
Or you can suck ap with your ap drain ability, and if you want situation aoe ap suck as well.
You can go the gork tree m4 for the 1.8k damage, knockback but its not worth a while saving for it.

and for the author of the topic you said dps shaman sucked, so I gave a good comment about why they don't suck in ranked, 6v6s situation.
and Telen and myself were having a civil discussion until this guy came talking out of his arse saying nonsense, so I gave him a simple answer and he took it personally lols.

The reason why I'm doing all of this, because there is a certain hate for dps shaman for no reason at all, a lot of mi spread information, and clueless hate, like yourself btw author. and I'm playing a shaman, so I'm tired of seeing this, BS sorry. there are situations where shamans shine and when they don't this ain't one of the moment they don't.

Shaman dps = burst+sustain
Sustain = dots
Burst = brain busta + bunch of waaagh with gork tactic.
Having knockback 2 detauns (aoe + single), heal debuff,30% movement tactic, and silence = extremely strong & viable.
Obviously good gear is required.

I am all for good discussions but when BS spreads then let the lols begin ^_^.

So I just said I second Telen's thoughts and you came up with the arse things and said what you said, and now you are the one having civil conversation... right
Only one question: where is 6v6 premades with DD Shaman, please name one.

[thedonkeykong332]

How can you have low dps if you top damage charts?
When I said top I meant I'm number #1 most of the times.

even if you have a spell that does 300k damage after 6 mins only, you still rock the dps chart because u dealt 300k damage in a sec brah. lets say we divide 300k / 360 = 833 dps, but i'm going out of context here since there isn't such spell in ROR.

shaman dps = sustainable damage from dots + brain busta bunch of waaagh burst with tactic = amazing damage. whether you are being super focused in a ranked match, you still deal damage, if you have space your damage is doubled simple.

dps means damage per second. How much damage you can get into a timestamp between heals, guard strip or healer silence/stun. Shaman it is low. Thats what kills. Scoreboards are very bad basis for judging efficient damage. You can put 50k damage and kill no one or 7k and kill someone its all about the time it takes. If it was all about damage changing Magus would be #1 dps by a long margin so why do they mostly play havoc. dps.

Also Shaman have no damage morale but aoe t4. Thats a massive problem for finishing.

Here for you my love Telen

https://imgur.com/Ki4kBju
You can check the magus' gear on armory and mine, and see he is slightly more geared than me (item level, etc).
In that specific game I didn't have any DBS, but for me it doesn't matter as long as we win. as I mentioned some games I have 5 dbs ( dominating games), some 3-4 , and some 1-2.
I don't think you know how to do burst damage with shaman/am, or maybe you gave up. (I'm not playing AM so not sure just saying mirrored classes). That's why its easier to go online and spread BS.

[Telen]

Télen: there is no need to argue here and convince others of your truth. No need to hurt them. Just write your truth your knowledge plz. And if a new dps am come here they can use it.

Im very sorry if someone was hurt

[thedonkeykong332]

dps means damage per second. How much damage you can get into a timestamp between heals, guard strip or healer silence/stun. Shaman it is low. Thats what kills. Scoreboards are very bad basis for judging efficient damage. You can put 50k damage and kill no one or 7k and kill someone its all about the time it takes. If it was all about damage changing Magus would be #1 dps by a long margin so why do they mostly play havoc. dps.

Also Shaman have no damage morale but aoe t4. Thats a massive problem for finishing.

What does aoe m4, has anything to do with shaman for ranked ?? I don't understand
You go after people and put gork sez stop(M1), and do lots of burst + sustainable damage.
Or you can suck ap with your ap drain ability, and if you want situation aoe ap suck as well.
You can go the gork tree m4 for the 1.8k damage, knockback but its not worth a while saving for it.

and for the author of the topic you said dps shaman sucked, so I gave a good comment about why they don't suck in ranked, 6v6s situation.
and Telen and myself were having a civil discussion until this guy came talking out of his arse saying nonsense, so I gave him a simple answer and he took it personally lols.

The reason why I'm doing all of this, because there is a certain hate for dps shaman for no reason at all, a lot of mi spread information, and clueless hate, like yourself btw author. and I'm playing a shaman, so I'm tired of seeing this, BS sorry. there are situations where shamans shine and when they don't this ain't one of the moment they don't.

Shaman dps = burst+sustain
Sustain = dots
Burst = brain busta + bunch of waaagh with gork tactic.
Having knockback 2 detauns (aoe + single), heal debuff,30% movement tactic, and silence = extremely strong & viable.
Obviously good gear is required.

I am all for good discussions but when BS spreads then let the lols begin ^_^.

So I just said I second Telen's thoughts and you came up with the arse things and said what you said, and now you are the one having civil conversation... right
Only one question: where is 6v6 premades with DD Shaman, please name one.

Because he was talking about damage and you were talking about kills? a complete different topic lol
So it's not hard to see your clueless XD, but you decided to make it personally as well lols.

[doky]

You still don't get that scoreboard numbers doesn't mean anything.
New player perhaps?