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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#11 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:58 pm

Others careers have spammable AoE to all targets in front and around, Choppa and Slayers are the ones that are being left behind in this new meta of AoE 24 cap spamm.

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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#12 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:02 am

Likeaboss wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:23 pm

Back to topic... If you make this skills core hitting 9 people noone will slot the tactic :) never gonna hit 24 ppl.... maybe 12-15 max.
and for that people wont deal with the 20% damage reduction on the Tactic
For example White Lion has spammable AoE to all targets in front + a Tactic that Increases AoE Armor Pen by 50% and reduces it AP cost in half, Marauder aswell have a similar but without the armor pen.

So the Choppa has a third penalty to be able to hit more than 3 targets.

1) AoE limit. 2) Must be Berserker to deal good damage. 3) Reduces it damage by 20%

Both Slayer and Choppa need an improvement for Flurry and Lotsa Choppin.

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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#13 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:24 am

Yeah they would need to make it core, drop damage penalty, and up the AoE cap before ppl would bring it and I don’t see that happening.

SL/Choppa are already the best melee wb classes. At least WL has something to do in WB now.
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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#14 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:02 am

Nah. AOE damage is already ridiculous; we should be nerfing all aoe output by classes, not buffing Choppa/Slayer AOE.

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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#15 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:00 pm

adapter wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:02 am
For example White Lion has spammable AoE to all targets in front + a Tactic that Increases AoE Armor Pen by 50% and reduces it AP cost in half, Marauder aswell have a similar but without the armor pen.
WHAT? Marauder has similar tactic WITHOUT the armor pen? :lol:
Marauder has "Piercing Bite" Tactic. 50% Armor Penetration on ALL Skills.
(Which require a Mutation, but that are like 75% of his skills.)

Shortly counted in Career Builder... Marauder Tactic counts for +/- 16 skills... WL tactic for 3 :lol:

And again, i know , WL /Mara are not choppa/Slayer.
But bevor you buff anything you should rethink the consequences... not both factions will profit from it the same way.
With AoE Utility of SH and Mara, the Destruction meele Train gets more profit out of it than the Order Faction.

long talk, no sense.. You cannot just Tunnelvision 2 classes and buff them, that's not how balance work in a MMO without mirror classes.

Every newbie can deal dmg with chopper and Slayer when AoE cap is set to 24 on Flurry and lotsa choppin...
Actually they can do great stuff but need a small amount of skill...

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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#16 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:10 pm

Likeaboss wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:00 pm
adapter wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:02 am
For example White Lion has spammable AoE to all targets in front + a Tactic that Increases AoE Armor Pen by 50% and reduces it AP cost in half, Marauder aswell have a similar but without the armor pen.
WHAT? Marauder has similar tactic WITHOUT the armor pen? :lol:
Marauder has "Piercing Bite" Tactic. 50% Armor Penetration on ALL Skills.
(Which require a Mutation, but that are like 75% of his skills.)

Shortly counted in Career Builder... Marauder Tactic counts for +/- 16 skills... WL tactic for 3 :lol:

And again, i know , WL /Mara are not choppa/Slayer.
But bevor you buff anything you should rethink the consequences... not both factions will profit from it the same way.
With AoE Utility of SH and Mara, the Destruction meele Train gets more profit out of it than the Order Faction.

long talk, no sense.. You cannot just Tunnelvision 2 classes and buff them, that's not how balance work in a MMO without mirror classes.

Every newbie can deal dmg with chopper and Slayer when AoE cap is set to 24 on Flurry and lotsa choppin...
Actually they can do great stuff but need a small amount of skill...
oops, my bad, didn't noticed that, anyway, the marauder got buffed yesterday XDDD

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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#17 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:57 pm

Mystry wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:02 am
Nah. AOE damage is already ridiculous; we should be nerfing all aoe output by classes, not buffing Choppa/Slayer AOE.
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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#18 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:54 pm

out of topic bright wizards at moment is top dps on order side, atleast those screen shots what i see bw in premade have ( with aoe cap24) 2-3 millioni dps. slayer is slight down.
choppa outdps sorceror ( on destro side)
slayer and choppa has more than 1 aoe tool nut just flurry byt they are on cd.

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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#19 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 pm

If this post isn't troll attempt im really worried about you people...
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Re: Choppa Lotsa Choppin / Slayer Flurry

Post#20 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:43 pm

StrongUn wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:08 am
Slayer hitting 24 targets with rampage on? no thx
Rampage OP! nerf Rampage!

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