[WL] AoE spec too strong for city siege

[Sigford]

This is the most stupid and laughable post of the whole Forum. If you think WL is that strong, try to kill a msh or a we, or a dok. LOL

Another one destro crybaby bothering people for being pwned for the bad bad wl.

Are you talking solo or WB situation? Starting to think you don't play in the cities much lol.

[Sigford]

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Hmmm, 4 different WLs, same result. Yes we had Marauder AP/Morale drain/rupts going. We had morale pump and died before it even made a difference. It's real hard to pounce into back field and 1 shot a healer then drop whirling axe to kill the rest.

[Bosli]

This is the most stupid and laughable post of the whole Forum. If you think WL is that strong, try to kill a msh or a we, or a dok. LOL

Another one destro crybaby bothering people for being pwned for the bad bad wl.

And another WL player that just doesn't know anything about the setup, nor did he read any of the posts.
At least some more people speak up now that faced this composition, and oh look at that - they think it's kind of broken too.

[adapter]

I just can't wait to stop playing City Scenarios, same as with Fortress, this zones that just exist to allow the farm of high level gear are a pain in the neck.

I was so happy to stop playing Forts, now when im done farming Royal Crests i'll be in peace.

Not having to face broken warband composition will be awesome.

[Lischang]

At least some more people speak up now that faced this composition, and oh look at that - they think it's kind of broken too.

Well that's usually what people who don't play in competitive guilds or group do. Just because you don't know the counter to it yet, doesnt mean it's broken.

[satanicomoderno]

This is the most stupid and laughable post of the whole Forum. If you think WL is that strong, try to kill a msh or a we, or a dok. LOL

Another one destro crybaby bothering people for being pwned for the bad bad wl.

And another WL player that just doesn't know anything about the setup, nor did he read any of the posts.
At least some more people speak up now that faced this composition, and oh look at that - they think it's kind of broken too.

As always destro players that only know to QQ while you have SH melee the most broken OP class of the game. You guys have no moral to complain about WL while having msh.
And what to tell about Get to the chop? Choppa became a 1 button class, that break any formation pulling eveyrone into the aoe pool. Destro cries too much.

[satanicomoderno]

This is the most stupid and laughable post of the whole Forum. If you think WL is that strong, try to kill a msh or a we, or a dok. LOL

Another one destro crybaby bothering people for being pwned for the bad bad wl.

Are you talking solo or WB situation? Starting to think you don't play in the cities much lol.

Oh I dont play much on city because I'm telling the truth? Have you played against msh that used to punt everyone off the bridge in stage 1 IC? You guys are a bunch of crybabies that are seeing your wombo combo being broken and can't deal with it.

[Sigford]

This is the most stupid and laughable post of the whole Forum. If you think WL is that strong, try to kill a msh or a we, or a dok. LOL

Another one destro crybaby bothering people for being pwned for the bad bad wl.

Are you talking solo or WB situation? Starting to think you don't play in the cities much lol.

Oh I dont play much on city because I'm telling the truth? Have you played against msh that used to punt everyone off the bridge in stage 1 IC? You guys are a bunch of crybabies that are seeing your wombo combo being broken and can't deal with it.

And if you read patch notes and played city you'd know they fixed that. MSH is nice, but there are so many counters to MSH (WLs being one) in a WB 24 vs 24 situation. Also you can't stack 6 MSH and be successful against 99% of the comps order runs. DoKs are no more difficult to kill than a WPs infact WPs have WAY more survive-ability than a DoK. WEs in a 24 vs 24 situation are easier to kill than any other dps you bring to the table except for maybe a sorc (they get what 7s to be unkillable then fold like paper?). Like your argument holds no weight, please come to destro and fight a 6 WL warband then tell me our complaints hold no weight. I've been on both sides and order by far overall has the better classes to stack for 24 vs 24 situations. ALSO don't get me wrong destro does have some great classes/abilities/etc. but there is nothing that comes close to what we're fighting against currently.

[sighy]

Well then. To put this bluntly, as the comp functions you get several WLs pounce a healer and mow down the rest with their axe. Traditionally you counter that with CC or spreading. CC has 30s immunity and was nerfed repeatedly. Spreading works against BWs who can't reposition on demand with insane speeds, be tanky and cc/interrupt.

You could build armor, but they have like 70-80% strikethrough, in practice.

You could try to burst them, but SM guard flies in next to them.


But ultimately this plays into the grander state of the game on the top level. Feel free to ask P&P, FMJ and others, if you don't believe me. Where destro overall can't keep up with the raw damage healing and such of order, but with SoV the HP got to the point where your morale bomb has to be nigh perfect, on an order squad which clumps and the really good ones recognise that. As it stands Destro only wins off order mistakes, which at the top level are few and far between. But that is a topic, for another thread.

[Bosli]

You could build armor, but they have like 70-80% strikethrough, in practice.

I'm 6x 180 armor on a cloth healer. It does help against single attackers, you can more or less ignore them when detaunted, but already 2 (AoE!) WLs kill me almost as fast as any other no-armor cloth healer unless I have my 3minute cooldown up.
Someone somewhere, probably in a discord, stated that these AoE WL specs easily reach 80% armor penetration with some gear, so there is pretty much nothing a healer can do to defend himself. If the group/warband tries to help him, they just pounce to another healer that's unguarded. If you blob, they AoE armor-penetrate your whole warband into oblivion - bla bla, all this was said more than 10 times in t his thread, yet some people still don't believe it.