wh compared with we

[Skullgrin]

Your picture choice seems to be biased.

If I've angered even one Witch Hunter into attacking me solo, then my work here is done.

[drmordread]

wow, cant belibe what i just read...
WE/WH mush be mosh imbalanced mirror from all ror.

WE have every stuff that give any potencial nerfed, while WH get love from every stuff GMs that play WH where able add.

U want AA buff, sure, all for u, is usules from WE since they have nerfed the basic fount of power WEs wanted fast AAs in live, and it is the ICD on kiss. Not to memtion WE only have 1 proc tipe from suj weapons and EVERY finiser nerfed to way of make then usules. That is why WE only spam 1 key not many time ago, cos u get less dmg if u use a finiser instead AW. The bosses wanted change that and nerf the crit tactic, making class even mor usules than before... Thing that make me sad cos i loved my WE but is total usules rigth now.

Try play one, then come here talk about imbalabnced mirror

Do you even play a WE? I got back on my rr40's WE after months off and I was kicking butt. Yeah, not as much as my rr74WH, but not shabby at all.
- Kisses dont proc all the time like on live? OH well ... WH bullets only proc if a finisher hits. If blocked or dodged, no proc.
- Crit tactic nerfed? OH Well ...WH never had one.

So you think the WE is useless now? Guess what ... the WE is FINALLY almost down as low as the WH, but still better.

[Mystry]

btw WH has offhand weapon with 800 armor debuff (t4 epic quest) but we doesnt. Balance.

That doesn't matter when every single player has an 880 armor pot on at all times.

[Manatikik]

btw WH has offhand weapon with 800 armor debuff (t4 epic quest) but we doesnt. Balance.

That doesn't matter when every single player has an 880 armor pot on at all times.

You know, kinda feel like that makes it matter more. If you’re negating something everyone is striving to have just for base survivability that’s a big deal. There no point for WE not to have it.

Next time argue cause AW and Torment spam ignore armor it makes the proc useless and the stats hit the WH is taking for it isn’t worth it. That argument might work on some people.

[Mystry]

Even cloth armor classes reach the maximum of physical damage reduction due to stacking armor talis. Then they chug a 880 armor pot specifically to negate things that reduce armor, like that weapon proc.

AW/Torment has nothing to do with this discussion either. It ignores ALL armor period (assuming you're behind the target or using feinted positioning).

[qwerty113]

TOD should be mirrored to wh or something like witchbrew

WB is garbage, even with the decreased icd.
It's still a proc, no crit, no stat contribution whatsoever and you need to have it ready when you come out of the stealth wich makes is garbage in roaming situations and very predictable in grp environment.


No matter what, WH/WE is still one of the more balanced match-ups in RoR.

its not garbage, its stucks 6 times - to count its like 6x450 = 2700 dps pure not physical damage, in conjunction with TOD its gives more power dps potencial than WH's BAL, which is suck with physical damage and can be cliensed

[warlover]

WH way op WE needs buff that's the only truth told here

[Synacy]

There are a ton of good and admirable witch hunters on order versus destruction's thotty elves.

[qwerty113]

@feroze
lol! what a joke! cry more pls...
Kisses on ICD make those tactics useless!
I guess u got bored of using BAL.
BAL > any finishers by far!. still

WH doesn't have alternatives with BAL ! Deep Wounds is very weak and same with tactics like standart+IF

[qwerty113]

how about;

-unnerfing Frenzied Mayhem
-removing the weird ICD placed on Kiss (should be 0 like WHs - to justify fast daggers not 1)
-restoring some of the AoE spec so class is not fish out water in Fort + PvE dungeons and might one day become warband viable
-actually making WB into deadly finisher not memetier extra proc
-maybe trade BAL to SS, so you be amazed at how much better one is than the other
-giving WE offhand weapon with armor debuff like WH
-giving WE 2 different subju weapons like WH for more proc potential


While WH-WE difference is not as gigantic as between some other mirrors, some of the differences are pretty absurd.
But maybe when the day comes that WE becomes viable for warband action and gets an actually useful finisher like BAL, maybe then WH can get also extra cookies?

This weapon's procs are total useless, never used them. WH/WE - not aoe class's, if you want aoe play sorc/bw.
The tactics still doesn't gives to wh any alternatives. OK Bleeding Edge is good, but it way to high in Mastery tree, should be like 7pt not 11pt. Only playable spec for wh its BE + BAL, but i cant get with it core abilities like Shroud and Repel