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Re: Vanquisher Gear from Keep Lords

Post#11 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:39 pm

nebelwerfer wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:36 pm i remember when there was one or maybe two gold bags per lock. and iirc genesis was in purple.

even then i dont think people whined as much as they do now in regards to loot
Lol, was even bigger whine then when you got duplicate goldbags.
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Re: Vanquisher Gear from Keep Lords

Post#12 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:55 am

drmordread wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:47 pm Meanwhile on my Engi; In zone from start to end over 20 DB, multiple full blown battles with tens of thousands of points of damage done, healing my pug WB Party because the healer is dps and my keg does more than he/she does, keep take/defend, more DB, at least 10k points damage done to destro ....

nothing higher than a white bag and that is IF I get a bag ...

edit: SO frustrated I rolled a RP on t1 because I never played one and want to see what it is like ...

aoe assist has very little contribution i think.
and kill counts seem like competition.
and small grp healer who heals only his grp which is killing solos. also low contribution.
just my experience, could be wrong.
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Re: Vanquisher Gear from Keep Lords

Post#13 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:25 am

anarchypark wrote: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:55 am
drmordread wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:47 pm Meanwhile on my Engi; In zone from start to end over 20 DB, multiple full blown battles with tens of thousands of points of damage done, healing my pug WB Party because the healer is dps and my keg does more than he/she does, keep take/defend, more DB, at least 10k points damage done to destro ....

nothing higher than a white bag and that is IF I get a bag ...

edit: SO frustrated I rolled a RP on t1 because I never played one and want to see what it is like ...

aoe assist has very little contribution i think.
and kill counts seem like competition.
and small grp healer who heals only his grp which is killing solos. also low contribution.
just my experience, could be wrong.
Well, that is all an engi can do so .....
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Re: Vanquisher Gear from Keep Lords

Post#14 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:39 pm

drmordread wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:25 am
Well, that is all an engi can do so .....

correction, death blow is not even contribution i think.
kill contribution is.
that's when you get loot privilege.
if you could get it with aoe that's a lot of contribution.
if not, almost zero contribution from dmg and kill.
and first hit seems important.
play aggressive > safety far behind
all theory though.
could be 100% wrong.
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Re: Vanquisher Gear from Keep Lords

Post#15 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:03 pm

drmordread wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:25 am Well, that is all an engi can do so .....
Reads really sad since it's far from everything an Engi can do, but back on topic: To make a conclusion how much an individual contribution is worth, you would have to compare it to all others, what is not possible besides kill/death ratio counts and other technically useless numbers.

It's indeed very subjective and there's reason why no dev will spread information about the exact calculations. What we know is on what parts of zone activity the contribution is based, like movement and fight at BOs, resources, etc.

Getting no bag doesn't necessarily mean you did bad work, but not enough compared to others I guess. Bag rolls are personal, but contribution has to be comparable to all others. The more people are in zone, the less chance you have to contribute.
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Re: Vanquisher Gear from Keep Lords

Post#16 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:32 pm

I had two pieces drop and bought the rest with medallions, they seem more available than conqueror.

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