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iAleks
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[WH]And tactic Close combat

Post#1 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:53 pm

Why tactic Close combat not activated from some skills Razor strike, Silence the heretic?
And one more question why skill like Absolution, Trial by Pain enemy can parry, why not Dodge. This range attack.
Did I understand correctly WE Heart seeker cant be parry?
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Re: [WH]And tactic Close combat

Post#2 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:12 pm

You certainly don't want ranged finishers to count as ranged, I can tell you that for nothing. If attacks are dodged they use the ballistic stat. If they're subject to parry then the attack uses strength.

I for one think that there is a discussion to be had vis a vis 5ft vs 30ft finishers, but my WH/WE experience is limited.
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Re: [WH]And tactic Close combat

Post#3 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:28 am

iAleks wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:53 pm Why tactic Close combat not activated from some skills Razor strike, Silence the heretic?
And one more question why skill like Absolution, Trial by Pain enemy can parry, why not Dodge. This range attack.
Did I understand correctly WE Heart seeker cant be parry?
RazorStrike should activate CloseCombat tactic if target you hit with it is 5ft away from you, same goes to SilenceTheHeretic.

Absolution and TrialByPain are Strength based finishers (not BallisticSkill like it was on LiveServer) thats why they check defense on Parry not on Dodge.

WE HeartSeeker cannot be Parried because this skill needs to be used behind enemy, same goes to PistolWhip on WH, your dont Parry/Block attacks from behind. Only way to Parry it is if you use HeartSeeker or PistolWhip with FeintedPositioning ability.

EDIT: I reported this on bugtracker:
https://github.com/WarEmu/WarBugs/issues/12748
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Re: [WH]And tactic Close combat

Post#4 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:11 pm

Thanks for answers.
About Heart seeker, i know this used behind. but i often come across a situation when I use Repel, WE front of me, and i knocked down from hear seeker. May be its lag, in one time WH use Repel and WE use Seeker.
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Re: [WH]And tactic Close combat

Post#5 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:19 pm

Yes, its delay problem, happens to me very very often, also very often I have situation where WE KD me down but I Stagger her same time with DA or vice versa, which should be impossible but there you go, both CC registered by server so both players CC'ed.
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