i like PvP ! - i dont understand whats happening

[Ashoris]

Just so you know
a tank can be competetive in ruin gear(starter) if they know what they are doing

thanks, i know and even wrote that before

please don't complain to dev's about making things easier to accquire when they already have made things easier and punished organised play for it in the process to appease puggies who want their cake and eat it without putting in much work then complain about it LOL... it really leaves bad taste in the mouth to see such complaints when they handed it out like candy for rng time played and little effort compared to the past where you actually had to earn it and fight hard always.

Like i said i didnt want to "complain" just give my feedback and what i personally do not really understand - what you probably dont understand is my point of view or where i come from.

[Wam]

Just so you know
a tank can be competetive in ruin gear(starter) if they know what they are doing

thanks, i know and even wrote that before

please don't complain to dev's about making things easier to accquire when they already have made things easier and punished organised play for it in the process to appease puggies who want their cake and eat it without putting in much work then complain about it LOL... it really leaves bad taste in the mouth to see such complaints when they handed it out like candy for rng time played and little effort compared to the past where you actually had to earn it and fight hard always.

Like i said i didnt want to "complain" just give my feedback and what i personally do not really understand - what you probably dont understand is my point of view or where i come from.

how easy do you want it to be? when its the easiest its ever been? what gear do you see as competetive for starter? how steep do you want the learning curve because that varies from player to player?

Before it only ever use to reward TUP or Phalanx from destro for doing the heavy lifting and being top kills in zone... or it would reward King Ocara and his loyal band if they had been in the zone hours before anyone else and fought very hard for it... now its RNG stand on BO get a few kills maybe you get a decent reward ... but fighting hard and wiping enemy zerg count's for little if they take their ball home and quit the map before the end we get punished with it for less rewards because it looks like we have been zerging enemy... when infact they started with double the number 95 vs 42 in thunder mountain... but people do it to spite the other realm and organised forces get punished for breaking enemy spirit. So for killing too effectively we get punished time and time again. Its hard to get right balance... but sucks when organised are always the one's who get punished for being effective in rvr. (If we swap sides to even things up we get punished also) so its not ideal situation.

also are you talking 6 man or wb? pug or guild? there is quite a few differences

Also i understand your concerns, because game relies upon new blood and always will... otherwise population will dry up in rough times... so that was my concern before when xp to grouping up got nerfed and discouraged teaming even if that was supposed stop gap, and also nerfs to power leveling ways was a bit of a concern for similar reasons... (yeah its not hard for a determined veteran to grind up alts etc, but its also not really fun if you do it many times before... and for new people switching around to find new class that grind can be a bit off putting in a game they just dipping toes in the water trying to get a feel for it)

But the dev's have given people more ways to accquire different loot, now if they make BIS only available through one area and not another then you have very legitimate concerns... i.e forcing players from one aspect into another but so far that is not the case.

[drmordread]

Not much of a grind. In two four hour sessions of RvR I got two gold bags. So basically in 8 hours I got over 60 Vanquisher medallions, a Vanq belt and a Vanq helm. So now I am running 2 piece conq, 2 piece dom, and 2 piece Vanq.

It is not a grind!!!!

[Onemantankwall]

I dont understamd the whine myself, as long as they keep to Mythics view of rvr gear being on top It'll never be a issue we play a rvr game to rvr yes, but a few dung runs to bond with guildys never hurt anyone

[Mystry]

But without it you can always complain about how unobtainable it is. When you have it it is {realm of the week}-bias. After that it's 'Because zerg!'.

It's been pretty consistent destro bias since live.
Granted that most of it is not the fault of the devs here since it is primarily the ultimate conclusion of what happens when one side's (Destro) good classes get to look badass and have mass appeal while the other side's (Order) good classes look retarded and unappealing for most people, but it's still there.

[drmordread]

But without it you can always complain about how unobtainable it is. When you have it it is {realm of the week}-bias. After that it's 'Because zerg!'.

It's been pretty consistent destro bias since live.
Granted that most of it is not the fault of the devs here since it is primarily the ultimate conclusion of what happens when one side's (Destro) good classes get to look badass and have mass appeal while the other side's (Order) good classes look retarded and unappealing for most people, but it's still there.

Excuse me, but personally, I find the way Destro classes look at high level is funny. The art is horrendous, the armor bulky, the weapons useless. And let's not forget that Witch Elves are running around in lingerie and Sorcs in slit to the waist evening dresses! I understand it is fantasy, but this entire Warcraft look alike bulky as hell armor is stupid.

[Hargrim]

the main issue is that there is a bug with lockouts.

So, what's the bug? Does it still happen?

[anarchypark]

it was in no way a cry and i made pretty sure that i do not speak for the majority but for me "and probably" the ones i regulary play with.

and no i dont want to get everything in 1 hour .... but one of the real benefits of RoR was that you could play a pvp mmo without a lot of grind so even with limited time you could play without feelin outgeared ... and that becomes more difficult for new Players with each tier of Equip.

my bad, i used too much exaggeration.
but seriously they made it with calculation.
1 hour for a wing, for example.
if u are unlucky in drop there is quest, 4 times.
6 pieces? 24hours maximum.
what is your suggestion for gearing timer?

and difficulty of city dungeons are not that high, imo.
easy means boring.

[Anjanolian]

.... And let's not forget that Witch Elves are running around in lingerie and Sorcs in slit to the waist evening dresses!

[drmordread]

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So please don't complain to dev's about making things easier to accquire when they already have made things easier and punished organised play for it in the process to appease puggies who want their cake and eat it without putting in much work then complain about it LOL... it really leaves bad taste in the mouth to see such complaints when they handed it out like candy for rng time played and little effort compared to the past where you actually had to earn it and fight hard always.

Excuse me. While I did state that I was able to get 2pc Vanq in 24 hrs, I want to go on the record as saying that this is the exception. (A) It was the weeekend and (B) it is a holiday week. This means I had 8 free hours to devote to playing WAR. Usually I play half of that.

It's easy when you can play six or more hours a day.
It's easy when you can play every day. (I am lucky and can do this)

It is not easy for those who can only play one or two days a week.