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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#181 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:21 am

Glorian wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:19 am All had to be in the discord voice channel so that you can actually hear the devs speaking. But you could have done a namechange to AAA<Name> for each dev name so they show up on top and you could find them better. Or turn of the join channel sound.

But that is all stuff that you can't think before you actually do it.

Or like Acidic suggests to make it an podcast with collected questions.
Nah, you can live broadcast the discord talk to youtube or twitch and have an actual interaction there. Split it up into videos afterwards. Has the upside of being able to drag in people for a direct conversation.
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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#182 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:33 am

Nidwin wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:14 am @Reesh

Yawn. I enjoy the "cut the crap off" so may be you can go play with yourself while at it. Just a suggestion, nothing personal.

He was done talking after 1 hour of a long monologue and instantly quit?
Showing all signs since he was back, you know, what signs I'm talking about?

When something takes it's toll you, me, Natherul, Yalkounette, Lheana take a little break while saying/writing. "Burning out dudes, dudettes so taking a break and catch you'll later."

It's simple.
It's known he struggled with depression before (no shame about it, on the contrary) and this happening and you dare to tell me to "cut the crap off"?

He opened to the playerbase with a lengthy reveal of the misdeeds and abuses commited by Torque - harassing players and staff members both alike - resulting in current situation of a 2nd server existing and many devs having quit over issues with Torque - now Aza joining the list and apparently Asuryan as well - wondering which dev gets the "boot" next over "failing to handle issues internally" (if you have one dev after another leaving the project due to failing to handle things internally... it just vindicates Aza coming to public after internal procedures failed).
Aza seemed very calm (not raging nor yelling), though emotional (for very justified reasons) - past weeks show he is perfectly capable of handling development and balancing, trying to say "oooh he was depressed at times" is a shaite excuse - many of us are depressed at times or even now, you can't use that as an excuse. Speaking to a crowd of 200-400 people, is very demanding and somewhat stressful for normal people who are not extremely extroverted nor born with narcissism.

Stop trying to attack Aza for having the bravery and ballz to reveal all the shaite happening behind the scenes.
The long commentary was pretty much a very detailed answers to the half a dozen community relations related questions - which to the surprise of no one - were pretty much concerned with Torquemadra salting the earth and burning bridges in the past with his well known skills for managing relations with the community.


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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#183 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:36 am

Nidwin wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:14 am @Reesh

Yawn. I enjoy the "cut the crap off" so may be you can go play with yourself while at it. Just a suggestion, nothing personal.

He was done talking after 1 hour of a long monologue and instantly quit?
Showing all signs since he was back, you know, what signs I'm talking about?

When something takes it's toll you, me, Natherul, Yalkounette, Lheana take a little break while saying/writing. "Burning out dudes, dudettes so taking a break and catch you'll later."

It's simple.
It's known he struggled with depression before (no shame about it, on the contrary) and this happening and you dare to tell me to "cut the crap off"?
The point is that you are ignoring what was said, man. You're trying to attack what was brought up during the QA by questioning the mental health of the person who presented the information, instead of debating the actual information itself. Honestly, discussing Aza's personal issues seems like literally the least important thing you could be talking about in a post Q\A RoR discussion about said Q\A.

That said, the man had to speak live infront of a hundred or more people and make a statement knowing he was risking his hopes and dreams, public opinion and more than likely a few friendships for the project in order to voice what he believed was right. It's easу for you to judge him and label his reactions as the result depression or mental health issues from the perspective of a muted microphone and a semi-anonymous listener.

I believe Azarael was the key to a bright future for the project, but it does make you wonder whether risking the server's future all-together in such a manner to achieve it was the right thing to do. My honest hope is that he returns to his position as a developer and is given a much greater degree of freedom in making decisions regarding class balance in the future, however the way things stand right now, it seems like a complete impossibility. The RoR ship seems to be sinking at the moment, and I hope that we will be able to plug the holes in it before it drowns. My 2c.
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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#184 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:42 am

From my point of view, the recent balance changes from Azarael's return was turning RoR into a whole new game and a wonderful step forward with classes being broadened and given real WB utility.

Without that vision and direction and combined with the issues revealed in the team I am questioning if I want to play on this server anymore.
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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#185 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:50 am

Ppl still havent aknowledge that 50% of the problem is internal behaviour problem with other dev team members and not just user having a bad day and whine

By that report ppl were internaly harassed, power abused by torque , litteraly ppl from team are leaving and that should be the asset for the project?
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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#186 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:54 am

@Nidwin

Yes, I dare, as I've spoken with the man, and with people that worked on the game with him. He is fairly capable of that work and had no issues at the time, other then those brought up by him and the community.
And I double dare that, even though mentioning of MD of my own shouldn't take place but it will, thus I strongly belief in my experience on the matter.
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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#187 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:56 am

was having fun before the QA, and I'm still having fun after. Having fun owns
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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#188 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:00 am

Reesh wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:57 am
Nidwin wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:44 am So,
I presume Aza lied to the entire staff and told you folks he was perfecly fine, over past depression and ready to come back. He clearly wasn't. Already his opening post should have rang a bell and I'm not even thinking about the amount of work he suddenly put forward. In his mental state I wouldn't even ask him how much true sleep he had since he came back, or even before as he would go deffensive and blantantly lie about it.

Fingers crossed (matter of speaking) Aza's truly going to take care of himself and stay away, both physically and mentally, from RoR.

If you folks can get in touch with Aza can you please tell him to look for professional help from Big Medical asap and do as he's told by Dr Big Medical. I'm not subject to depression but my sister is and I know very well how devastating that illness can be.

As for the Q&A I have not only no opinion at this point in time but I actually don't realy care. One of us is not well and needs help and that's all that matters to me.
He has not at any point said, that his mental health currently is in bad condition. Cut the crap off.

What he did was emotional and stressful and that took its toll afterwards, especially with addition of private messages with largely negative tone if I call that lightly, that shortly came after he was done talking. We had a quick brief example of that on live chat, of the attitude towards him from other staff members after the monologue.
Exactly. Being concerned for someone is one thing, but presuming someones mental health state just to discredit them is something else completely.

On one hand, people are understanding of the RoR team when they get all emotional and resort to widespread insults over "their" code being "stolen", but when Aza reacts to HIS code being "stolen", staff abusing players, staff abusing staff, staff being outright corrupt and staff directly harassing and trying to manipulate his vision and actons, his mental health is being questioned based on a depression he suffered two years ago, all because he got emotional, and rightly so?

Now I'm not saying he is fine, as it's not our place to make that call. I genuinely felt bad for him and got kinda worried when I saw him leave. But there can be many reasons for it, for one private messages. Instantly trying to use the fact that he has been suffering from depression against him is just despicable.
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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#189 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:22 am

Eathisword wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:08 pm
tazdingo wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:02 pm damn, they didn't answer my question about making IBs bigger
Ah that would be glorious indeed ! Bigger with magic boots to run faster instead of rolfcopters !
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Re: We are now live with the Developer Q'n'A #1 2018!

Post#190 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:37 am

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