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Re: Blue bag

Post#11 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 2:54 pm

So to get back on the topic, I think its the two layers of Randomness that upset many people
- Contibute enough (or stack high enough bonusroll for your desired bag)
- Roll the correct item in the bag (wether its the conq chest or Genesis Fragment)

We all have the stories of getting 4 conq belts in a row before hitting a piece we actually needed from goldbags, or getting 3 duplicate Genesis pieces of all the other set-pieces before landing the final one.

But the way the bonusroll system works, we do have a "garenteed" way to obtain the bags, eventually. So its frustrating, but still duable. It is when the dublicates kick in we really feel the frustration. And maybe that part could be looked at, giving us a vendor where we could sell duplicate pieces, for half the purchase price so it didnt feel so bad to "waste" your goldbag roll you have accumelated for several zonelocks, on a dupe you have no use for (2nd set, talisman fragment etc sure)

Edit: Unless ofc I am looking at this too heavily from players perspective and not from the Dev side of things, where you do want replay-ability and motivating factors to keep loging on and participate in the RvR. I personally have RR and Realmpride as motivation, but can see how others might lose interrest in their chars when they hit full gear and dont have that as motivator.
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Re: Blue bag

Post#12 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:07 pm

When u need only blue bags for example, even stored contribution that is quite good idea become more annoying cos since I get blue bag my stored contr for bue become 0 but contr for rest bag stay high so I need to go tru gold-purple-green-white before start again with blue. It is okish but when u need only 1 item and got duplicated after duplicate it become super annoying and that should be avoided esp for free game. After u gain +20 blue bags you should have all needed items whatsoever
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Re: Blue bag

Post#13 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:02 pm

Fallenkezef wrote: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:26 pm I've abandoned rvr rng entirely. Gearing with BL, WI and Dom when I get the tokens from sc's.

RvR is one of the reasons I abandoned my engi and went IB.
I've tried to do this with Dom/RF/BL as well. The problem is you cant do this as effectively on a healer. Conq is by far the best endgame healing set and forces healers into orvr.

Only advice I have is wait until you have a very high bonus to your next blue bag and "snipe" it in the next zone. If this fails or your bag bonuses to blue are terrible, move to an alt.
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Re: Blue bag

Post#14 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:25 pm

I thought they mentioned introducing currency for Genesis sometime in the future, since it really is a pain in the ass to get.

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Re: Blue bag

Post#15 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:40 pm

I kinda miss the times when you had to be actually amongst the best (and luckiest) to get some chance at that +750 lootroll, then roll good. 2 gold bags, 2 purples, bunch of blues and greens... if your warband played right and carried most of the RvR effort in the zone, you had good chances of being there to get those top bags.
These days every can get a bag by just doing decent enough and showing up often enough, you should be getting few bags on weekly basis instead of actually having to get to top of the zones contributors against other high contributors.

The odds of getting genesis are multiple times better now than in the past, yet still not good enough because people hungry for the best jewellery set in game. (which IMO is a balance issue when one set of jewelry is so much better than other options - imagine if you had ONE set of gear that would triumph over all other endgame gear sets by a wide margin...)

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