Faction balance.

[kindred4080]

thread #2445

No no! #2498!
But I've been playing for over a year and I just don't remember the pop balance and ORVR dominance being this bad. Generally it was Destro dominating for a week, then order, back and forth. Now it seems we're just getting dominated, even in Guild WB's. Gotta say it's just frustrating .

Excuse me, but Order can deploy 3 organized guild WBs (Bitterstones, CNTK, D&D) vs destro pugs. I've seen only our guild WB on destro. So it's a bit tricky.

[Ridduk]

thread #2445

No no! #2498!
But I've been playing for over a year and I just don't remember the pop balance and ORVR dominance being this bad. Generally it was Destro dominating for a week, then order, back and forth. Now it seems we're just getting dominated, even in Guild WB's. Gotta say it's just frustrating .

Excuse me, but Order can deploy 3 organized guild WBs (Bitterstones, CNTK, D&D) vs destro pugs. I've seen only our guild WB on destro. So it's a bit tricky.

Get your vision checked

[M0rw47h]

thread #2445

No no! #2498!
But I've been playing for over a year and I just don't remember the pop balance and ORVR dominance being this bad. Generally it was Destro dominating for a week, then order, back and forth. Now it seems we're just getting dominated, even in Guild WB's. Gotta say it's just frustrating .

Excuse me, but Order can deploy 3 organized guild WBs (Bitterstones, CNTK, D&D) vs destro pugs. I've seen only our guild WB on destro. So it's a bit tricky.

It's not just about deploying, but cooperating.
Few days ago, I've forced myself to play Order toon to balance numbers a bit, and I saw following scene on /2 :

PuG warband leader: D&D where are you?
D&D: Don't follow us!
PuG warband leader: We need to cooperate!
D&D: Go away!

How Order can not have AAO, if people act like that?

[Dragonkillerx]

My guild has stop playing for now. Its to one sided not fun we can except 20 to 60% aao but not 100% all the time and that the devs give everything to destro.

[Gracely]

This is an often chewed question. Order players do roll Destro if they want, there's no problem with that. I choose not to, but thats my choice. AAO works fine. We might just be suffering from Order players moving elsewhere. My guess is that they will be back.

[Glorian]

thread #2445

No no! #2498!
But I've been playing for over a year and I just don't remember the pop balance and ORVR dominance being this bad. Generally it was Destro dominating for a week, then order, back and forth. Now it seems we're just getting dominated, even in Guild WB's. Gotta say it's just frustrating .

Excuse me, but Order can deploy 3 organized guild WBs (Bitterstones, CNTK, D&D) vs destro pugs. I've seen only our guild WB on destro. So it's a bit tricky.

On destro it is currently No Remorse, Pain and Pleasure. And last Wednesday we saw a destro Tup Revival Warband. That is at EU Prime hours.

Your List of Order Warbands seem to be right. At least for EU times. On NA there are the Black Crow Alliance guys on Order. And the High and Mighty lads.

But overall each Order RvR guild doesn't have a WB each day of the week. Bitterstone Thunderers is 1/7. Cntk 3/7. DnD I don't know. Saw them quite often so also think 3/7 or 4/7. please correct if I'm wrong.

Anyway, thing is we are grown ups and have families and can't run 7/7 days.

If you want to have warband communication give me a call. We have a TS warband vox channel to coordinate between cntk and BT warband on Wednesday.

[Nameless]

Imo the big problem is that orders characters are not appealing enough to not harcore-wana-win-alltime-players so on orders u got worste class balance among the realm and generaly less players.

Add to that the fact that some zones are unplayable cos of random keep selection. I like that feature but when destro get original orders keep at KV and got some aoo the zone is almost unplayable for orders (prolly same for destro if opposite occure)

[Sulorie]

My guild has stop playing for now. Its to one sided not fun we can except 20 to 60% aao but not 100% all the time and that the devs give everything to destro.

Sounds like a boring guild. Do you prefer to sit on flags and wait for an eventually appearing enemy?

[Glorian]

Imo the big problem is that orders characters are not appealing enough to not harcore-wana-win-alltime-players so on orders u got worste class balance among the realm and generaly less players.

Add to that the fact that some zones are unplayable cos of random keep selection. I like that feature but when destro get original orders keep at KV and got some aoo the zone is almost unplayable for orders (prolly same for destro if opposite occure)

If Destro has north Keep it is actually far easier for Order. Take the Skaven Tunnel south. Get ram. Move through Ice. Siege. Destro has a far longer way to get wc reinforcements from their WC than Order.

And if you want to win at all times sure you can hop on the destro melee train. Or get a kotbs, BW or WP and join the Deep and Dry or Cntk warband. Both do amazing stuff at burning 2 pug warbands or 1 organized warband in 10 secs.

I think two weeks ago I saw a DnD warband with 7 kotbs, 8 BW and 8 WP. Looked like an empire only warband.
And they totally destroyed everyone in reach.

[Haho2]

No no! #2498!
But I've been playing for over a year and I just don't remember the pop balance and ORVR dominance being this bad. Generally it was Destro dominating for a week, then order, back and forth. Now it seems we're just getting dominated, even in Guild WB's. Gotta say it's just frustrating .

Excuse me, but Order can deploy 3 organized guild WBs (Bitterstones, CNTK, D&D) vs destro pugs. I've seen only our guild WB on destro. So it's a bit tricky.

It's not just about deploying, but cooperating.
Few days ago, I've forced myself to play Order toon to balance numbers a bit, and I saw following scene on /2 :

PuG warband leader: D&D where are you?
D&D: Don't follow us!
PuG warband leader: We need to cooperate!
D&D: Go away!

How Order can not have AAO, if people act like that?

its so stupid from D&D... ther have full guild WB and farm destro PUGs... im like be farme from this arogant .... and play with cooperate destro mPUGs WB, than must read "go away..." sry but its order fail....

no i play 3 hour BC Order lock BC when Destro have 120% AAO Destru 46 ppl and Order 86 ppl... this is picture today morning, and order whining for low pop?

Jetigorakar