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live4treasure
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Re: The healing debate

Post#41 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:24 pm

But shamans have more burst healing than DoKs... I don't get it. With the lifetap changes, if you use a heal stack empowered cast of I'll Take That you'll be able to put out an absolutely massive amount of healing.
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Re: The healing debate

Post#42 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:31 pm

Hmm well ok
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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Re: The healing debate

Post#43 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:40 pm

Arconnn wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:23 pm
Bozzax wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:07 pm As a serious answer: The tactics you list ("run RA, WBY, RB and ESM for 6 mans") dont provde enough burst heals (<1s casttime) vs focus (unless you are up vs pugs). imo ADY!, GC and even possibly GFI are needed for that.

For bombing yes EWGA, GM! and DMMD likely are good picks but again bombing is not about your healing
ye because a heal that takes 0.9 seconds to cast that does 3k isn't enough burst heals
disrupt too strong to rely on that

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Re: The healing debate

Post#44 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:44 pm

doky wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:40 pm
Arconnn wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:23 pm
Bozzax wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:07 pm As a serious answer: The tactics you list ("run RA, WBY, RB and ESM for 6 mans") dont provde enough burst heals (<1s casttime) vs focus (unless you are up vs pugs). imo ADY!, GC and even possibly GFI are needed for that.

For bombing yes EWGA, GM! and DMMD likely are good picks but again bombing is not about your healing
ye because a heal that takes 0.9 seconds to cast that does 3k isn't enough burst heals
disrupt too strong to rely on that
yeah because if you heal off the MDPS / main assist you'll get disrupted 24/7
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live4treasure
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Re: The healing debate

Post#45 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:05 pm

You can get tons of intellect from 0.7 getstats contribution mechanic + 20% lifetap strikethrough tactic. It's VERY reliable
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Re: The healing debate

Post#46 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:12 pm

Bozzax wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:31 pmHmm well ok
To be honest most of my viewpoint is pre-lifetap changes too lol
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Re: The healing debate

Post#47 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:34 pm

lifetap healing is :lol: pre or post changes.

10/10 theorycrafting lads
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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Re: The healing debate

Post#48 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:35 am

Bozzax wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:34 pm lifetap healing is :lol: pre or post changes.

10/10 theorycrafting lads
Uhh initial feedback is that it's really good...
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Re: The healing debate

Post#49 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:55 am

paired on bracketts.

1-Zealot vs rp.

Essentialy the same class with very similar workout, howver Rp , has a edge, his racial include extra armour and a 50% flat cc reduction . this give him a essential adventage when it comes to be under pressure and focus.

Rp wins due to staying power.

2-Dok vs Wp.
Same work style ,A while ago the dok m2 gave em a very nice tool , but it was nerfed,Bald adventages over dok is the fact if proper speced is way more durable and has a tactic wich include a 20% healing increase on a defense . aswell his procs were not as nerfed as did the dok ones .

Since covenants nerfs and m2 nerfs i give edge to wp.

3- am vs shaman.
Similar mechanics with a very different play style . the gobo has mobility but when it comes to healing it suffer from very poor ap mechanics . good shamans usualy drink ap potions non stop because his class dynamic is very ap hungry.Am lacks a extra hot wich make them abit trickier to sustain on the openings, but unlike shamans they have 0 ap issues, wild healing is retarded strong and soemthing u can keep perma up so ur ap issues are mostly 0.

Mixed feelings on this , am has potential to keep healing for more time without break but unlike the gobo he is easier to crack down . am aswell pump is realy good as u can get a m2 on less than 6 secs so u can always rely on having focused mind perma up .

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Re: The healing debate

Post#50 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:35 am

Nameless wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:59 am When taking into account other classes is pretty good to point mara and choppa pulls that nullify positioning and kitting quite severely. And without rd that hits orders healers quite hard
65 feet pulls vs 150 range heals . go cry other place please .There is a reason stagger is kinda a big deal over pull and its range.

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