Squig Herder Burst Development Discussions

[dansari]

SH with a BG is a **** beast of a 6v6 comp.

BG makes plenty of classes **** beasts

[Arteker616]

SH with a BG is a **** beast of a 6v6 comp.

any class can shine at 6vs6 , when one is a premade and other 6 pugs.

[Dabbart]

SH with a BG is a **** beast of a 6v6 comp.

any class can shine at 6vs6 , when one is a premade and other 6 Train Wreck.

Fixed for you...

[Lektroluv]

Whatever you do, dont listen to Lektroluv.

Whatever you do, ALWAYS listen to Lektroluv.


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[peterthepan3]

SH with a BG is a **** beast of a 6v6 comp.

any class can shine at 6vs6 , when one is a premade and other 6 pugs.

6V6 is sorta the opposite of pugs, but okay... Shiznit and Teefz both seem to make the class shine well, maybe others aren't doing things right?

[Dabbart]

Maybe I'm biased cause I played with him so much, but I consider Stinkyweed one of those SHs that makes the class shine. Him asking what others are thinking/doing is quite telling actually.

[catholicism198]

6V6 is sorta the opposite of pugs, but okay... Shiznit and Teefz both seem to make the class shine well, maybe others aren't doing things right?

I haven't seen either in a while, especially after the nerfs, but they're both high rr and have "bis" gear- both of which were obtained before the nerfs. ...so saying they "seem to make the class shine" isn't saying much.

Yes, my point is that you don't know until it's actually done. Any change that occurs can have indirect effect on any number of classes.

No, that's something completely different.

[Darosh]

Spoiler:

I'd be interested in Teefz' perspective on this topic.

You wanna know the opinion of a person which rarely play Squig herder and he leveled it up, when the Squig herder pet had a 100 dps asigned instead of your range weapon one aka 54dps maybe in best case (almost a 50% dps nerf in pet), when he had moral 2 for create a fictional burst damage...

Maybe you should hear the people which still play the class, like the person which create this post or myself.

The class has been overnerfed, it is a bad class which lost supervivance due to resolute defense nerf, lost burst due to the 10 nerfs the class suffered already, and due to the itemization growing and growing in the exact factors that make SH damage bullshit, and doesn't matter what words say the persons over balance duties which don't even play the class obiusly...

I don't care much if they have acces to code, they clearly don't know nothing about the balance in this class or didn't found out some bugs into the code which affects directly to SH damage, because everyone playing with or against SH, knows it is a tier 2 character or even a tier 1 character fighting against t4 ones, or even t6 ones in some class case (everybody knows what class are we talking about)

It seems as if you missunterstood my genuine curiosity for a statement of storts. Given Teefz is among the more proficient of gits, hearing his opinion on the matter might be interesting ~ that's about it. That curiosity does not translate to me discarding other opinions. Chances are Teefz shares your opinion, I couldn't tell.

[dansari]

SH with a BG is a **** beast of a 6v6 comp.

any class can shine at 6vs6 , when one is a premade and other 6 Train Wreck.

Fixed for you...

[Arteker616]

6V6 is sorta the opposite of pugs, but okay... Shiznit and Teefz both seem to make the class shine well, maybe others aren't doing things right?

I haven't seen either in a while, especially after the nerfs, but they're both high rr and have "bis" gear- both of which were obtained before the nerfs. ...so saying they "seem to make the class shine" isn't saying much.

Yes, my point is that you don't know until it's actually done. Any change that occurs can have indirect effect on any number of classes.

No, that's something completely different.

and before the top dmg earn kills ruleset. without dismish teefz kill ratio or skill, he was the posterchild of nerfedbutton macro for lots of arrer kill steal of whole server .
The most efective combo of sh was with a shaman for morale pumper so sh could generate quick m2 and keep a high mobility along the shaman.
that era is gone since no rd or cw , the nerfs to pets , the nerfs to disarm and the dmg of sh falling behind due to the evergrowing defensive nature of game , had hurt the sh class alot.
gotta remember sh unlike engi , magus, bw sorc, sw dont have any way to achieve higher critic chances due to mechanic or tactic.
The m2 removal was just another massive hit to the coffin to a class wich stand as the most enrfed of ror due to the fact alot of talented players did used it to kill alot of order players wich got what they wanted , a pure guted class .