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You specifically said elfes have ~180 ini and justified with it that it's then easy to get high ini which it is not. How is that my mistake if you just tell something that is not true.
Next up you flame others for saying order has a 200 ini debuff and call them out it's "only" 180. Then you flame me because I corrected your mistake again and you say "Oh but I only ment sw only"
Well you know what others ment order in general so there is no need to flame them for it esp since it's a group game it makes a lot more sence to look at the overall picture then just what once class can do.
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Yeah because CD increasers can not get cleansed or what....Like really you argue with something and contradict yourself by doing so. Your counter is "oh just use cleanses lol" to a tactic without cd. Then you go on to well you could use cooldown increasers so he isn't able to spam it. Well boy first of all cd increasers have long cd's and can be cleansed by your site aswell and it's not like you can not cover your debuffs by various other debuffs furthermore your realm has cooldown increasers aswell so what's the point you are trying to make. Let's just assume a choppa specced cd decreaser. First of all it has poor uptime secondly it's not like healers have something else to do with this insane dmg meele sw and wl brings....
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Okay let me enlighten you what my point is since you seem to not know
Next up:Force of Fury is multiplicative and effectively useless if you stroll around with +100% ctbc postdebuff.
Your argument was using other sets e.g. Rare Fortune set to get to higher ini values my argument is that some classes don't have a choice to what they have to wear. I don't know where this is hard to grasp. Your class shouldn't be useless just because you don't wear a specific set.
Then zeal debuff can be covererd rofl. Yeah this is your argument here but above you didn't wanted to know something that the wirst slash debuff can also be covered by other debuffs therefore making it impossible to cleanse in the first place.
The more I read your "argument" if we even want to call them that way the you the more it just sounds like "NAAAA don't take my OP skill away cause i'd suck then again".....don't bother answering me again cause I won't answer to your bs again.
Well the tactic was always there yes but before you would trait an insane buff against either a squishy sw in meele range or weak dmg from a assult sw. Now assult sw are more then capable of doing good dps while offering this insane buff. You know it kinda makes a difference.daniilpb wrote: Wake up it's not the tactic! Tactic was always there and no one ever noticed it's existence. It wasn't even acceptable for a group to have a sw just for this tactic, it never gave any huge advantage. But Conq proc did that since everyone is whining now