A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

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12point
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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#71 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:12 pm

Fallenkezef wrote:
12point wrote:
Glorian wrote:
If you have the urge to please, do.
We thought at the IB Warband to go all in Moral gear to get half a chance.
yeah dwarfs are absent on the list arent they...only race to be left out of both lists. that's racist
Dwarfs do not have morale, they have ale and grudges

its the root of the discrepancy though...mythic oversight. probably from scrapping the hammerer

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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#72 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:38 pm

12point wrote:
Fallenkezef wrote:
12point wrote: yeah dwarfs are absent on the list arent they...only race to be left out of both lists. that's racist
Dwarfs do not have morale, they have ale and grudges
its the root of the discrepancy though...mythic oversight. probably from scrapping the hammerer
The Hammerer is in the Game. He is just caled Slayer here.
I have seen Hammerer - Ironbreaker combos in Closed Beta. And they pretty much worked like Slayer - Ironbreaker.
The Hammerer could perform like a dwarven god if he was guarded by an Ironbreaker.

I don't know of any moral stuff though.

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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#73 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:46 pm

Many many years ago, RP had Mountain Spirit that would last 30 seconds.

http://web.archive.org/web/200809261406 ... px?id=1644

2 RP in party, and you can rotate that massive armor and okay resist increase (since it is moral based, it would stack with normal Armor pots + Armor tactic - giving Dawi lines insane armor advantage)
This makes some sense coming from "lore", where other races do their magic but Dawi refuse somewhat to participate in magical tricks instead relying on their own runes and ancestral spirit stuff.
With natural normal moral gain of 36 per sec, first RP pops Mountain Spirit at 20 seconds of fight start, it lasts until 50 sec, after which 2nd RP pops Mountain Spirit nr2 and the rotation continues. At 100 sec with natural moral gain, the IB line would reach Axe Slam readiness and with their massive armor stacks from racial tactic, potion and moral buff, the line would advance whilst almost invincible against enemy physical dmg and do their gigantic 8xAxeSlam obliterating hordes of enemies back when AoE had no 9 target cap and the Greenskin horde explodes back to fungi spores. :D

Obviously with current "fixed" moral gain of 9 per sec, that is only a distant dream...

But honestly kinda clueless why every other healer apart from RP used to have one tactic that increaser own/party moral gain. Shaman and AM still can increase moral for other people, Zealot retains self pump. Dok and WP pumps were removed in 2011 I think. Not sure if RP had pump when game launched.

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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#74 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:43 pm

From what I gathered out of a balance proposal for SM a while back, the team doesn't like morales anyway, so I'd imagine they all get reworked at some point like melee squig
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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#75 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:50 am

Mountain spirit never stacked with anything, i.e. potions or kotbs auras (same thing for zealot) - unlike M3 Sprout Carapace. WP/RP never had a pimp.
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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#76 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:09 am

Scrilian wrote:Mountain spirit never stacked with anything, i.e. potions or kotbs auras (same thing for zealot) - unlike M3 Sprout Carapace. WP/RP never had a pimp.
Hmm, you're probably right.
Makes it also interesting, if DoK/Shaman/Zealot all had pumps, but of Order healers only AM had a pump?

And that not stacking looks confusing since moral buffs/debuffs usually normally stack with other stuff? Damn complex stacking rules for sure...

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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#77 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:21 am

There were no rules set for stacking as a default by Mythic and you just had to check everything on the case by case basis.
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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#78 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:14 am

Aurandilaz wrote:
Scrilian wrote:Mountain spirit never stacked with anything, i.e. potions or kotbs auras (same thing for zealot) - unlike M3 Sprout Carapace. WP/RP never had a pimp.
Hmm, you're probably right.
Makes it also interesting, if DoK/Shaman/Zealot all had pumps, but of Order healers only AM had a pump?

And that not stacking looks confusing since moral buffs/debuffs usually normally stack with other stuff? Damn complex stacking rules for sure...
if i recall, i can be wrong, dok used to have a morale pumper but that was long ago before they trashed the dps spec . think was removed around the time of the racials nerfs in dark elfs

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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#79 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:38 am

Dok stuff
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Babic
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Re: A Full List of Moral Pumps and Moral Drains in the current Game.

Post#80 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:38 pm

Panodil wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:51 am Whats with the cd on AM morale boost? Dont think its a cd, only 2s casttime. Just to complete your list .D
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