Patch Notes 16/12/2017

[GodlessCrom]

Pretty sure I saw Hao himself admit AM morale pump is a red herring, and impractical in most situations. Though his posts are so troll heavy its hard to tell where the troll begins and the serious ends.

what are you talking about ? did i say something about AM in this thread ?

Nah you just always used to talk about something something Solar Flare, something something AM morale pump. Then in some other thread you admitted it doesnt work very well.

[Arteker616]

So destro now have more crit than Order. Something Order's crit rate was heavily nerfed for. Destro also get to keep their free morale pumps. What are Order getting?

Considering the best morale pumper in game is on order with AM i think u are kinda hillarious or dont know about the nerfs made to destro morale pumps ,

Ah yes, I remember now how one AM pumped up all the tanks in my warband, with their 2s cast single target heal, so they could all drop raze in the beginning stages of a fight.

Considering takes 4 secs with am to pump a m2 or even less if u have focused mind and with destro tanks need to block with it happening each 10 secs , u can prety much in a organized wb have 12 tanks ready with razes before destro tanks have even m1 .all this while actualy healing em safe from behind once the fight starts .,,,,
i still dont understand what part of nerfed morale pumpers on destru u havent yet understand because has been months since it happened. and the fact of am superior pump show in plenty of videos by other people yet u still in denial u have the tools to get adventage over destru in organized wb play is amazing .

[Arbich]

Not happy with the change of sigmars shield.

It was a nice single heal for Grace/Salvation WP (1hand and 2hand), now it is useless for 1hand wp and in most occasions also useless for 2hand wp (divine assault almost always better). Maybe it was a bit overperforming before, but now it is total garbage. I hope it is only a test for a short period of time.

[Tankbeardz]

Considering the best morale pumper in game is on order with AM i think u are kinda hillarious or dont know about the nerfs made to destro morale pumps ,

Ah yes, I remember now how one AM pumped up all the tanks in my warband, with their 2s cast single target heal, so they could all drop raze in the beginning stages of a fight.

Considering takes 4 secs with am to pump a m2 or even less if u have focused mind and with destro tanks need to block with it happening each 10 secs , u can prety much in a organized wb have 12 tanks ready with razes before destro tanks have even m1 .all this while actualy healing em safe from behind once the fight starts .,,,,
i still dont understand what part of nerfed morale pumpers on destru u havent yet understand because has been months since it happened. and the fact of am superior pump show in plenty of videos by other people yet u still in denial u have the tools to get adventage over destru in organized wb play is amazing .

Shammy pump hits the entire group and is working fine. Moving on...

[dansari]

Spoiler:

Considering the best morale pumper in game is on order with AM i think u are kinda hillarious or dont know about the nerfs made to destro morale pumps ,

Ah yes, I remember now how one AM pumped up all the tanks in my warband, with their 2s cast single target heal, so they could all drop raze in the beginning stages of a fight.

Considering takes 4 secs with am to pump a m2 or even less if u have focused mind and with destro tanks need to block with it happening each 10 secs , u can prety much in a organized wb have 12 tanks ready with razes before destro tanks have even m1 .all this while actualy healing em safe from behind once the fight starts .,,,,
i still dont understand what part of nerfed morale pumpers on destru u havent yet understand because has been months since it happened. and the fact of am superior pump show in plenty of videos by other people yet u still in denial u have the tools to get adventage over destru in organized wb play is amazing .

AM morale pump is great on one or two targets. You comparing 8 order tanks getting raze before 8 destro tanks because you think AM 2s single target cast is better than passive block is just troll.

The 2h chosen change is great for the class. I think it will give destro good variation in both melee train and warband play. But you saying that AM pump is better at pumping order tanks than destro tanks can do themselves... I dunno. I'm without words. It reflects incredibly poorly on your critical thinking capability.

[Haojin]

Pretty sure I saw Hao himself admit AM morale pump is a red herring, and impractical in most situations. Though his posts are so troll heavy its hard to tell where the troll begins and the serious ends.

what are you talking about ? did i say something about AM in this thread ?

Nah you just always used to talk about something something Solar Flare, something something AM morale pump. Then in some other thread you admitted it doesnt work very well.

man i can't understand you. why you mentioning am morale pump in this thread and pointing me ? i suggest if you think something underperforming go and make a balance proposal.

Pretty sure I saw Hao himself admit AM morale pump is a red herring, and impractical in most situations. Though his posts are so troll heavy its hard to tell where the troll begins and the serious ends.

what are you talking about ? did i say something about AM in this thread ?

I did like the devastating blows mara video from when the AOE cap was super weird.

thanks for the kind words.

AM morale pump is great on one or two targets. You comparing 8 order tanks getting raze before 8 destro tanks because you think AM 2s single target cast is better than passive block is just troll.

The 2h chosen change is great for the class. I think it will give destro good variation in both melee train and warband play. But you saying that AM pump is better at pumping order tanks than destro tanks can do themselves... I dunno. I'm without words. It reflects incredibly poorly on your critical thinking capability.

yeah mate, you're right <3

[Arteker616]

Spoiler:

Ah yes, I remember now how one AM pumped up all the tanks in my warband, with their 2s cast single target heal, so they could all drop raze in the beginning stages of a fight.

Considering takes 4 secs with am to pump a m2 or even less if u have focused mind and with destro tanks need to block with it happening each 10 secs , u can prety much in a organized wb have 12 tanks ready with razes before destro tanks have even m1 .all this while actualy healing em safe from behind once the fight starts .,,,,
i still dont understand what part of nerfed morale pumpers on destru u havent yet understand because has been months since it happened. and the fact of am superior pump show in plenty of videos by other people yet u still in denial u have the tools to get adventage over destru in organized wb play is amazing .

AM morale pump is great on one or two targets. You comparing 8 order tanks getting raze before 8 destro tanks because you think AM 2s single target cast is better than passive block is just troll.

The 2h chosen change is great for the class. I think it will give destro good variation in both melee train and warband play. But you saying that AM pump is better at pumping order tanks than destro tanks can do themselves... I dunno. I'm without words. It reflects incredibly poorly on your critical thinking capability.

Its not Troll it has been tested and used in RVR, and AS u pointed its a passive trigger each 10 secs wich need of a BLOCK, and AS u said great in 1 or 2 targets , a cordinated WB with ams Can EASY cordinate pumps and drop a Raze Bomb faster than any Destro WB because AM pump is NOT Passive.
Just because u want to deny or hide the power of Cordinate well done am pump in cordinated wb play doesnt mean it doesnt work or happen.

But yweah keep using the destro tank morale pump wich were allready nerfed m4 up in a minute stuff when its imposible for them as a excuse for cry on the forums please.

Yeah..... none of that is relevant to patch notes so no more - Torque

[Licher]

Spoiler:

- Restructured Sticky Squigz and Whirling Pin in order to prevent the jump back from failing if nearest player is snare immune. NOTE it will still fail to knock you back if you are rooted, this is INTENDED behaviour.

The most cool thing here
Sadly, it affects SWs too

Permabanned from the forums, posting on a second account. That's a paddlin'.

[alusnova]

So they changed the WL guardian spec to be a support of your pet now they nerf the KD to 2 sec ....so the whole point of the Guardian tree is to make the pet strong at the sacrifice of your own dps but you are also nerfing the actual pet ability on a longer CD too.


Seems they want us to forget guardian tree altogether and go axe/hunt.

Yes I'm sure the devs spent all the time reworking guardian tree because they don't want people playing it. Have you actually tried guardian? It is stupid strong in small scale, really doubt 1 second less knockdown on 1 target every 30 seconds is gonna suddenly make the spec unviable.

That said I will be retiring Catnap momentarily to gear up my Choosen, been waiting so long for 2h spec to be worth taking over other tanks, hope these changes do the trick.

Yes I'm trying the Guardian spec and re-did my talis to all wounds (usually I got for str,etc) going to be spending on defensive RR so going to be more tanky rather than dps that my class is supposed to be but if they keep nerfing the tree what's the point? and for the record i agree that changes were needed but there is no denying (see recent threads and even chat in game ) that people keep whining and blaming the WL for the game problems , the knockdown 1 sec is still a nerf and adjustment to an already adjusted tree and class.

I know have to decide if to respec and rebuy my talis and go axe/hunt and actually be a dps class not a man dps with a so so pet.

[Warfare80]

Not happy with the change of sigmars shield.

It was a nice single heal for Grace/Salvation WP (1hand and 2hand), now it is useless for 1hand wp and in most occasions also useless for 2hand wp (divine assault almost always better). Maybe it was a bit overperforming before, but now it is total garbage. I hope it is only a test for a short period of time.

I agree. Its still alpha and balancing is a big thing and it takes time. Atm Sigmars Shield is totally useless. The amount of heal is just not worth draining that much (all) RF.