Patch Notes 1/12/2017

[Kalt]

Maraudeur changes are not that bad.
TB wounds debuff reduce by half is ok , and the change of the skill tree is good.
You gain some armor debuff value because if you need TB, you have to invest more point .
Draining swipe change is cool ,10 sec cooldown means a much smoother savagery rotation.

Only downside i can see is that you have to be high rr (renown rank 70) to do the cookie cutter build, but we gain a smoother full savagery rotation , a better survivability in monstro .
Wounds debuff value was too high ,and i can live with a 950 wounds debuff. I think i still take it ,because it has a high tooltip (highest damage for a savagery skill) and i run a no stance dance build most of the time .

[Destromagus]

WL is a better pug killer, marauder is the better premade killer.

What about WL+SM+SL/WH combination and their synergy?It's ok,right?

[peterthepan3]

WL is a better pug killer, marauder is the better premade killer.

What about WL+SM+SL/WH combination and their synergy?It's ok,right?

It's very good, but its very niche and arguably one-trick pony against enemies who can anticipate it (M1 burst rotations).

[Destromagus]

WL is a better pug killer, marauder is the better premade killer.

What about WL+SM+SL/WH combination and their synergy?It's ok,right?

It's very good, but its very niche and arguably one-trick pony against enemies who can anticipate it (M1 burst rotations).

So why 9 of 10 6x6 premades like play one-trick pony setup?

[Collateral]

Cuz destro doesn't have any hc commited premades, and that setup is best pug farmer.

[peterthepan3]

What about WL+SM+SL/WH combination and their synergy?It's ok,right?

It's very good, but its very niche and arguably one-trick pony against enemies who can anticipate it (M1 burst rotations).

So why 9 of 10 6x6 premades like play one-trick pony setup?

because 9 out of 10 order premades are pug farmers and choose the comp that nets the fastest kills. also, there's like 0 competitive action on the server so most choose comps that thrive vs the majority, i.e. pugs.

[Bozzax]

Spoiler:

Fake news peter

The best premade on this server was WL + SM + SL (WH wrks as well) (farmed you and anyone else on dest like cattle)

At that point there was comp. 9/10 copies it (including your group) since it is meta.

Keep the epeen contests out of patch notes threads.

[peterthepan3]

Fake news peter

The best premade on this server was WL + SM + SL (WH wrks as well) (farmed you and anyone else on dest like cattle)

At that point there was comp. 9/10 use it since it is meta.

I didn't say it wasn't good (I infact said it's very good), I said that it was a one-trick pony against competent opposition - particularly the WL/SM/WH. It does and can work to great success, but that doesn't take away from the fact that what the comp revolves around, i.e. burst synergies via WL M1/WH pop/SM m2, can be anticipated and dealt with. It's just a shame that there aren't many active competent destro premades that can actually showcase this (Teefz/LoB show this nicely).

my op was that WL > Mara for pug farming, and mara is a better premade class overall. is that wrong?

[Spierron]

Spoiler:

Many premade order run with wl-wh-sm-kotbs-am-rp but only two works properly, they know how to use the potential of their group. The rest loses against pug

But is not the best premades on this server, don't comment on what you do not know.
I liked to see fight 2 premade on Eataine for finish 4-4.

Keep epeen contests out of patch notes thread, i won't sya this again.

[Panzerkasper]

Lack of groups, toxic players, unrewarding concept of SCs and huge realm imbalances killed the 6vs6 community.