Healing in RvR - renown

[covenn]

Well for scenarios, simply give everyone the same renown. That is the easy part and currently works perfectly fine. The only issue really is with open RvR. Healers literally get way less renown than everyone else and have no incentive to heal period unless in an optimal group set up. To me, that is broken.

[roadkillrobin]

The problem with making everyone get a even split of the cake in sc is that it kinda gives incentive to slack-leach. Just barely stay active to not get AFK flagged.

[Acidic]

Well for scenarios, simply give everyone the same renown. That is the easy part and currently works perfectly fine. The only issue really is with open RvR. Healers literally get way less renown than everyone else and have no incentive to heal period unless in an optimal group set up. To me, that is broken.

Oh yes , can see the leaches flooding in with this

[Sulorie]

The problem with making everyone get a even split of the cake in sc is that it kinda gives incentive to slack-leach. Just barely stay active to not get AFK flagged.

Correct, people complained about healers in sc, leaving group to get huge rewards.
Nobody talks about ppl in your group, slacking and just get the same rewards for randomly being in your sc group (not queued as premade).
The difference is, the healer actually did his job and in that screenshot he even healed x2,5 times as much out of group as the best grp healer class in game. I would say "thanks for the healing". Actually he gets stronger at a faster pace and this can only be good for my realm.

[Ugle]

The scenario example is a non issue as it is allready handled.

[Nameless]

I am all for normalize renown distribution among all classes especially at orvr. But numbers from my last post are just too much. And yes I was busting my ass for that renown by healing like mad but prolly being at group would benefit more for realm sake.

And I still think that dsp contribution is just too much by going solo. Devs should aim for the golden medium. More renown for healers less for dps (esp solo players)

Ps sc numbers are posted as example, atm dps classes could achieve similar, more consistent renown gain at orvr

[SilverWF]

I am all for normalize renown distribution among all classes especially at orvr. But numbers from my last post are just too much. And yes I was busting my ass for that renown by healing like mad but prolly being at group would benefit more for realm sake.

And I still think that dsp contribution is just too much by going solo. Devs should aim for the golden medium. More renown for healers less for dps (esp solo players)

Ps sc numbers are posted as example, atm dps classes could achieve similar, more consistent renown gain at orvr

You are hopeless.
You just said, that you are literally broke your azs at this scenario and at the same time, you saying, that you aren't deserved this reward. What? Where is logic?

As for me, personally, I would HAPPY to see THAT OoG healer at my side, rather than pointless_never_switch_guard tank or mindless_group_heal_spammer healer in my sc party and force share reward for my job with them. And I wouldn't care - how many renown he would got, because I am not a jelly kid. The only thing I care on scenarios - are my teammates doing their job well or not. And I can only recommend for you all to care about THIS 1st, not about reward numbers.

And what are you suggesting? Cut rewards for everyone? Are you serious? Thanks, no.

[Bozzax]

dont fool yourselves out of group helaing from live was insane, the problem is that now it is the same for the other side. That was it is wrong

https://imgur.com/a/t2KR9

This pretty much was a bug like all other never to be solved WAR bugs

Easy fix
1. Make inside grp heals reduce ”healing renown pools” exactly like out of grp healing and share renown with grp (if grouped)
2. Let healers in group gain out of group renown as well when healing out of group and share it with group
3. Decay ”helaing renown pools” on players out of combat

The WAR system with its bugs still was better then what we currently have

[covenn]

Well for scenarios, simply give everyone the same renown. That is the easy part and currently works perfectly fine. The only issue really is with open RvR. Healers literally get way less renown than everyone else and have no incentive to heal period unless in an optimal group set up. To me, that is broken.

Oh yes , can see the leaches flooding in with this

Not sure I understand. It currently works like that now and leaching isn't a problem. Please clarify.

[roadkillrobin]

Imo the best way to go in general is to massivly reduce the base gains for soloing and give large percentage boosts based on groupsize and then allow for "leach-healing" again.

This will bring a better ballance between the archetypes for the gains.