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Akilinus
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#11 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:18 am

ncarreiro0619 wrote: Keep em coming guys lets talk about which PQ's to farm and stuff like that! Also Rotations! :)
PQs: Mayhem at Mudflat T3 Tala, Ruin you can go where you like I thik most people do them in cw, Loryndaal in Cale or in Reikland if you got a good group.
Rotation: Not much to say here, most if it is situational but make sure to use Yer all bleeding to "hide" your heal debuffs.
If you play a savage build you want to spam Go for da soft spot when ever you can.
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ncarreiro0619
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#12 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:11 am

Thank you guys! All of your responses have really gave me some insight and I defiantly know more now then i did when i started this topic. :)

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ncarreiro0619
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#13 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:27 am

How about any renown point placement guides? Based on the different paths a Choppa can go down where would/should I place my points into?

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TenTonHammer
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#14 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:33 am

ncarreiro0619 wrote:How about any renown point placement guides? Based on the different paths a Choppa can go down where would/should I place my points into?
Thier are no "diffrent builds"


Choppa is pretty much forced to get certian things
Deft defender
Parry
Weapon skill


Resolute defense
Clensing wind
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ncarreiro0619
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#15 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:44 am

Gotcha! :)

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Akilinus
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#16 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:52 am

ncarreiro0619 wrote:How about any renown point placement guides? Based on the different paths a Choppa can go down where would/should I place my points into?
Test some stuff yourself and see what you want to use. What are you dying to? What ever it is try to spend points in defensive for that.
For my playstyle I like melee crit and deft defender.
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TenTonHammer
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#17 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:52 pm

Scrilian wrote:Strong Finish, 15% crit for realistically 2 abilities, while gimping your survivability even more, instead of running both str tactics or 1str+flanking and slotting WS/Wounds tallies for up to 10k hp poll and 35%+ penetration.

I ran the slayer variant of that tactic and even going glass cannon Spellbreaker build - it didn't provide any noticeable dps gain both in play and combat log wise, since a solid bulk of damage is auto hits and abilities from other trees.

Really? i found a significant increase in dps output and db's when i slotted strong finish, slasha is bread and butter for choppa and is atleast the ability you are using 75% of the time simply because you cant always be in position for Go for da soft spot or trigger it in time due to server lag so your character "stops" mid animation for the positional attack

Between strong finish, RB, 5% crit set bonus and SC weapons that atleast 27% chance to crit on hitta abilites and even more if you get lucky epic quest weapon crit proc which is pretty good for a class that NEEDS melee crit where on the server over all crit chances have been nerfed

Additionally slasha, RB, try n hurt me, sit down and weaklin killa if 2h are all ablites that you use quite often

Another thing to consider is that Choppa does not get push for more unlike slayer so their is less aa's and most so more of their dps is comming form ability damage furthermore due to SYG i feel that choppa gets more milage from focusing on crit


Choppa's surviveaibilty is already gimped what between that class mechanic and like only double digit toughness due to dont wanna live for eva and what not


might as well embrace it and just hit stuff harder
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Akilinus wrote:Solo for sc waronlinebuilder.org - Choppa build
2 Handed build waronlinebuilder.org - Choppa build
Can use the savage build with 2h as well.
Have you tried this waronlinebuilder.org - Choppa build as 2h build?

I find it pretty good since the 2h build is very reliant on finishers and Wear em down doesnt make you as squishy as wot rules? does.

While i defiantly think that wear em down is good, i think that losing channeled heal for the outging healdebuff thats and exhaustive blow and does less dps than weaklin killa, it is not worth in my eyes, regadless of party play or solo

i you want an outgoing hd so badly just ask a bg to run with you, theirs cant be cleansed and has no cd
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#18 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:07 pm

I go for DD, FS II, Melee crit. (playing mostly sc's)

Gear Level is not that great. (ruin, merc, BL mix and strife torment or oakstones (depends on what I'm up to)

can always pop get stuck in. 35% AA for 20 sec.
but ofc if you have a swing timer of 3.x or higher (aka 2hd) you do more dmg via ability dmg.

playing dual wield left and middle tree or left and right, depends on what I'm up to too.

double digits is a lie! ;) I have 120 toughness with don't wanna live foreva <:-)
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#19 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:13 pm

TenTonHammer wrote:
Panzerkasper wrote:
Akilinus wrote:Solo for sc waronlinebuilder.org - Choppa build
2 Handed build waronlinebuilder.org - Choppa build
Can use the savage build with 2h as well.
Have you tried this waronlinebuilder.org - Choppa build as 2h build?

I find it pretty good since the 2h build is very reliant on finishers and Wear em down doesnt make you as squishy as wot rules? does.

While i defiantly think that wear em down is good, i think that losing channeled heal for the outging healdebuff thats and exhaustive blow and does less dps than weaklin killa, it is not worth in my eyes, regadless of party play or solo

i you want an outgoing hd so badly just ask a bg to run with you, theirs cant be cleansed and has no cd
This is a spec only for premades and in a organised party you dont necessarily need the channel heal, although its a good dps tool thats out of question and like i said, because of the 2h tree beeing very finisher reliant you need wear em down to really play it out.
No more helpin' definitly hits harder.

You can cleanse Mind killer where the outgoing is bound to, so yes its cleansable.
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Re: Choppa help (new player)

Post#20 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:34 pm

Panzerkasper wrote: This is a spec only for premades and in a organised party you dont necessarily need the channel heal, although its a good dps tool thats out of question and like i said, because of the 2h tree beeing very finisher reliant you need wear em down to really play it out.
No more helpin' definitly hits harder.

You can cleanse Mind killer where the outgoing is bound to, so yes its cleansable.

Really a couple of people i talked to said they like to take channeld heal into party play as well because due to how squishy choppa is it puts a lot of pressue onto your groups healers to keep them up, channeled heal removes some of that pressure


What is the tool tip dps of no more helpin in realtion to weaklin killa once speced up to the former?


I said it "cant be clensed" in the fact that mind kill has no CD so it can be reapplied just as quickly as it was cleansed and additionally it debuffs WP too so it actually reduces a healers healing by more than 50%
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