WHY ARE SHAMANS SO OP?

[Daknallbomb]

wy the hell a flamy balance thread is still open ?

Idk. The one I've done today about WL got locked almost instantly.

same dumb idea like that here !
I can say it every time again all what balance needs is a st corp debuff on zealot ;D

[Arteker616]

ze/rp ap ritual, chosen/kobs aura, wp/dok ap tactic. there is plenty you could list, if you are having ap issues then you are doing something very very wrong.

ktbos got x2 ap auras , chosen 1 .

[shaggyboomboom]

ze/rp ap ritual, chosen/kobs aura, wp/dok ap tactic. there is plenty you could list, if you are having ap issues then you are doing something very very wrong.

ktbos got x2 ap auras , chosen 1 .

and?

[Daknallbomb]

shaggy dats op nerf it ?

[shaggyboomboom]

shaggy dats op nerf it ?

the dwarf gyrocompter has too many wings, we should remove 1 so its fair and balanced

[Daknallbomb]

jep thats another thing . Same like the dragon heads on magus discs pretty op

[shaggyboomboom]

seems fair enough

[Iacobus666]

wy the hell a flamy balance thread is still open ?

Idk. The one I've done today about WL got locked almost instantly.

Same **** as the moral pumps and Chosen builds - Devs listen to Order whining and nerf the crap out of the few advantages Destro have over Order but cut off discussion from the Destro side allowing the large multitude of advantages that Order have go unchecked.

[Stickzy]

I hope that if there is a "nerf" to AM/Shaman they don't end up like Dok/WP, who are now arguably the worst healers according to several people I have talked to.

Yes, Dok/WP were overperforming in their .ab ex specs and it definitely needed to be reverted/removed until further changes were made. But the group cleanse/AoE detaunt changes weren't reverted, which affected their survivability. Add to that the fact that Essence regen is nowhere close to what it was on live because gear (which means even "backline healers" have to constantly use Blood Offering/Essence Lash).

Back then I advocated buffing the "underperforming classes" instead of nerfing the "overperforming ones" (except for Group cleanse tactic, which proved to be the main issue affecting several other classes/specs viability). Things like increasing the resist value from Shamans/Zealots while lowering the value from Chosen/KotBS for example. I still think this is the way to go: fix the overperforming skills from Shaman/AM (if they have any) without killing the classes, and fix one or 2 things about Dok/WP (most people seem to agree Zealot/RP are in the right spot healers should be). I know devs have plans for melee healing once client control is here but that might take a while, right?


TL;DR: Don't nerf overperforming classes (except for one or 2 broken skills). Buff underperforming classes instead.

You are so right! Dok/wp is so bad imo. I have wp, but I gave up. No aoe detaunt at all destroys it completely. Cleanse nerf... with the amount of rdps in this game.... Class Should be reverted completely, and once they have client control, go nuts. I really hope torq would revert it until CC.

[Daknallbomb]

wy the hell a flamy balance thread is still open ?

Idk. The one I've done today about WL got locked almost instantly.

Same **** as the moral pumps and Chosen builds - Devs listen to Order whining and nerf the crap out of the few advantages Destro have over Order but cut off discussion from the Destro side allowing the large multitude of advantages that Order have go unchecked.

what a freaking crap you tell
WAsnt it YOURE leader who sad that Moral is broken atm and order cant do a **** against ?
And still never will understand that order blah or destru blah 70 % off order are destru players and 70 % of destru are order playern if not more