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DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#1 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:58 pm

Has any of the wise done a direct comparison between the DPS Zealot and DPS Shaman? My guess is that the DPS Shaman is more potent in both damage and killing, but wondered about other's opinions.
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Re: DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#2 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:36 pm

Whitesands wrote:Has any of the wise done a direct comparison between the DPS Zealot and DPS Shaman? My guess is that the DPS Shaman is more potent in both damage and killing, but wondered about other's opinions.
You guessed right.
The only really useful thing a dps zealot can do IMO is AoE heal debuff on crit.
The ST spec is meh, but alongside transference tactic (50% lifetap on all DD abilities) you can goof around just for fun. But don't expect it to be a dps shaman.
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Re: DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#3 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:40 pm

Whitesands wrote:Has any of the wise done a direct comparison between the DPS Zealot and DPS Shaman? My guess is that the DPS Shaman is more potent in both damage and killing, but wondered about other's opinions.
DPS shaman is literally better at everything. The only thing DPS Zealot brings that shaman doesn't is AP regen for party, self res, constant/AoE healdebuff, and a few options from tactics like hotting people to proc armor pen reduction.

Damage is no where near as good, healing is no where near as good. Shaman get's mechanic points that remove the negatives of being DPS for a few casts of healing and on top of that they have powerful life taps. Meanwhile DPS zealot gets a passive leech tactic that only works on direct damage and is sad in comparison, oh and boon which is like babymode "I'll take that" especially with tactic.

I've played both here, and DPS zealot is the only character I ever regretted leveling up and pretty much deleted it after playing it for 2 days. It's not even fun to play due to the low amount of offensive spell options and clunkiness of healing while DPS compared to shaman or dok.
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Re: DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#4 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:50 pm

Whitesands wrote:Has any of the wise done a direct comparison between the DPS Zealot and DPS Shaman? My guess is that the DPS Shaman is more potent in both damage and killing, but wondered about other's opinions.
zealot is a prog class, if you lucky progg you can make 5-6k dmg in few second, the zealot has more grp support for sc, the shaman is nice for kite groups in open. the only real different on the classes are that the shaman has the nicer resi-debuff.

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Re: DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#5 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:51 pm

DPS Zealot requires high rr to be effective/fun. Possibly 70.

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Re: DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#6 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:58 pm

Shaman better st dps. Better solo class. Zealot better aoe sustained and utility. More warband use.

Can't really think of anyone playing either class actively to it's max potential.
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Re: DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#7 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:11 pm

peterthepan3 wrote:Shaman better st dps. Better solo class. Zealot better aoe sustained and utility. More warband use.

Can't really think of anyone playing either class actively to it's max potential.
We using dps zealots in warbands time to time. It's effective with equal numbers but in zergy fights aka 80+ players only pure damage matters.
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Re: DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#8 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:34 pm

Well shammy has a rly rly nice burst a very good solo Performance and can be good in a 6-12 man if youre good . In wbs dps shammys are not much useful mayb with aoe Blessing burn but thats it ! for Focus grps cool Thing !

Dps zealot is another number . Aoe in wbs he can be useful via aoe silence , aoe perma healdebuffing , knockbacks without immunety .
In single target ist still cool because of the perma healdebuff and 6 sec stagger can be very usefull . But the burst is about the half what shammy can do BUT nearly alls skills can be castet via running whats not bad and i rly like morale 1 with 1.2k Amor debuff and 500 al resis debuff can kill ppl .
Solo zealot got some Problems because of nearly no kite potential and a distruped stagger or kb kills can be the last Thing what you do ;D

so when you put it together
Shammy solo duo roam = yes
Shammy 6 man kite Setup = yes
Shammy 12 man farm grp = yes
Shammy 24 man = no

Zealot solo duo = hard
zealot 6 man =yes
zealot 12 man =yes
zealot 24 man = yes (aoe specced)

So at least shammy and zealot as dps CANT go vs good meta grps you will be better with other toons BUT on the Server here there are not many rly rly good grps so ist NO Problem to fight as dps shammy or zealot both can work both have pro and cons .
As example today i run a duo DPS zea+sh and we made together 80 kills from 300 OVERALL kills from destru side so it can work but there are everytime better opions .

Play what you like to Play and you will find a way both are viable with some builds and Setups the only Thing where i cant see a dps shammy usefull is in a 24 man .

Fact is both Need rr 50+ and good gear to work like domi+merc Combine or better ;D
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Re: DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#9 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:29 am

Daknallbomb wrote:Fact is both Need rr 50+ and good gear to work like domi+merc Combine or better ;D
I really think you need to be rr60+ with BiS is be descent as ddzealot.

ddzealot's ST dmg is unreliable outside of m1 or mirror of madness(which is is only usable on healers and still doesn't always work) when sham does good st dmg but zealot offers as alot of aoe wb utility with good burst aoe dmg. So I guess it depends on what you wanna do.
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Re: DPS Zealot Vs. DPS Shaman

Post#10 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:03 am

50 is okay If you take 4 piece anhihi
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