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Eathisword
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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#31 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:45 pm

porkstar wrote:
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Eathisword wrote:
porkstar wrote: I answered no to every single one of those questions but I give 300% effort. How big is my problem?
You answered... but was the answer yes ? If so then al you need is :
https://youtu.be/_b7bgtu2O4E?t=117

oh and nachos.
That's what livin' is, the six inches in front of your face.
I know right.... idiot forgot to add nachos and pizza...
Vdova wrote:It depends on many things. This game is group oriented. Since most classes has not descent self heal, solo you die pretty fast unless you are dps healer, tank(hello Volgograd :-) ) or stealth class who can disingage and stealth away. Some classes are designed for high opening burst(kill in few seconds) others has better sustain. In most rvr games, the dmg outpoot of zerg is so huge, so you can die in seconds no matter how much you stack defensive stats.
Well kiters can live pretty long even without heals. SH, SW have good potential. WL can do alright, because of pet. Lots of classes can work solo. It's just that solo isn't the most newbie friendly thing in WAR since you face people with great gear, potions, knowledge and practice that you don<t have.

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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#32 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:02 pm

eks wrote:[Jerry Seinfeld's voice]What's the deal with PvP games?[/Jerry Seinfeld's voice]
I can't not read it like this when it comes up in the recent threads now... :evil:
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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#33 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:13 pm

wargrimnir wrote:
eks wrote:[Jerry Seinfeld's voice]What's the deal with PvP games?[/Jerry Seinfeld's voice]
I can't not read it like this when it comes up in the recent threads now... :evil:
Me too, though I think it is hilarious.

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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#34 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:35 am

Seinfeld voice will stay with me for all future whine posts. That's hilarious.

Not insulting OP btw. Sounds like lack of info, practice and less whine to me.

But still... funny as hell Eks!
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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#35 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:54 am

Dabbart wrote:Seinfeld voice will stay with me for all future whine posts. That's hilarious.

Not insulting OP btw. Sounds like lack of info, practice and less whine to me.

But still... funny as hell Eks!
No. Im veteran, and you all say its a group game..

So. How in a 'group game, can 1 person take you out?
If it were a group game, wouldnt that imply it would take several people to take you out?

And im not trashing the game.
This is about the only game ive played for years, its a problem in all the pvp games, just dieing.
If you play pugs, and happen to get into a good group. The battles can be close, all can be at full health and at a standstill. Then some pure dps class can knock out 1 healer(or someone) and all falls to crap.

Ive tried making my chars defensive spec just to survive and live longer, it doesnt work.
You basically trade blows with whomever, if you press the wrong button or its 2vs1, your screwed, which is nonsense.
You have to constantly be at guard and ready for some B.S. There is little room for error, and most of the time no time to react, or whatever.

Ive suggested raising our hp pool significantly 25k extra health, this wold allow for battles and reaction time.
You can be playing against a crap player, but because they got the first few shots off on you, nothing you can do, requires no skill, only opportunity. Can you imagine 2/3 DPS classes on a squishy having to work together, rather then some player just killing you in moments. Defensive and evasive skills arnt even a factor in some battles.
A few random people Crit you. game over

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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#36 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:12 am

This game isn't balanced for 1v1s. So yes, in particular situations 1v1 you are almost entirely boned. Your only strat is to kite/run and probably die. Ofc, this works the other way as well. Depending on your class and spec, 1v1 you can smoke a bunch of classes/people.

"Group game" entails that it takes multiple people to do what you need to. DPS, Tank, Heals. If that is difficult to understand, then I dunno what to say.

What lvl/RR are you?

Edit: YOu say you are a veteran.. But honestly, you don't sound like someone who knows anything about end game.

Increasing HP to 25k+ would be asinine. No one would EVER die. And sorry, but complaining about having to be on Guard at ALL TIMES in the ORvR zone or SC? Really?
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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#37 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 3:17 am

Good healers don't get killed by 1 dps. nothing to see here.
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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#38 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:08 am

Dabbart wrote:Seinfeld voice will stay with me for all future whine posts. That's hilarious.

Not insulting OP btw. Sounds like lack of info, practice and less whine to me.

But still... funny as hell Eks!
Thanks! (Sorry Wargrim)
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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#39 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:37 am

KikkL wrote:Ive suggested raising our hp pool significantly 25k extra health, this wold allow for battles and reaction time.
This would allow for neverending group fights. Good luck with bursting anybody down. :roll:
Maybe, just maybe, all this time you have been playing a style of game you simply don't enjoy?

Also, Eks: I think there's still a guild rank untouched. How about a promotion to the rank of Seinfeld?
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Re: Whats with pvp games?

Post#40 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:00 am

KikkL wrote:
Ive suggested raising our hp pool significantly 25k extra health, this wold allow for battles and reaction time.
I'm pretty sure we're all being Ken M'ed here.
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