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RyanMakara
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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#21 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:05 am

SeaTerror wrote:My sorc comes up to 177 int.

http://www.returnofreckoning.com/armory ... ame=Sumara

I have all the things you mentioned above except for the blue helm and the int cape(extremely difficult to get on destro) I'm nowhere near 200+ int. It's a huge difference in damage.
That makes no sense. You're only lacking 40 int from all jewel slots, 3 int from not using Wanderer gloves and 6 int from not using the cloak. You should be at 191 at least. When I equip the exact same stuff, I need to take off my Deci boots to get to 177. I think your deci set bonus is simply not being calculated into your damage.
YOU SEE, THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO CHECK EACH OTHER'S GEAR LOADOUTS! We've just figured out that it's not your gear per se, but the bugginess of the set bonus! Does it even show your Decimator has its set bonus stats activated? Because apparently your Decimator chest lacks the +4 toughness the BW one has, I think your Decimator chestpiece is ruining your fun explosive damage times :<
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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#22 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:07 am

Azarael wrote:Agreed with everything except this:
RyanMakara wrote:and proper use of Combustion
There's no real motive to actually offload Combustion because the drawback isn't severe enough.
Yeah but he's arguing this would've been different on live. To be honest, I've never had my Combustion backfire on me during my playing on live in T1, it was strange as ****. Anyhow, the Combustion drawback IS pretty severe when you're firing from a remote location without a healer and kept being hit for 272, but it's do-able indeed.
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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#23 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:13 am

RyanMakara wrote:
SeaTerror wrote:
Azarael wrote:Shattered Shadows has an int coefficient of 0.1 and a cast time of 3 seconds.

63 int > 6.3 * 3.0 > 19 damage difference. Factored into a crit at max DM, it's ~50 damage.
That's cool. You forgot to factor in the potential number of targets in any given engagement combined with availability of healers on order side.(You can literally sit at 100 combustion for entire games) Furthermore; I doubt he was only using aoe.(700+ dam fireballs anyone?)

My point still stands. Gear matters.
Fireball casts a lot easier than Fiery Blast, and when you throw them at level 3's and 4's they go poof instantly due to lack of armor.

And of course the gear **** matters, that's the entire point of this thread xD
I've said it at the start.
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Sulorie wrote:You need no 240 INT for that. ^^ Only someone who heals you, what can be difficult sometimes, when healers heal the wrong targets.
You kinda doooo~
I mean surely with heals and fiery blast spamming you can do massive nuke damage when you get your crits but the maxed intelligence allows you to crit for 500-700
Being maxed out on the best gear due to availability on one side but not the other is an obvious flaw that needs to be addressed, and I'm doing so with these results. Main point of 'bragging' about obviously class superiority over over levels grouped together in SCs, who can also be sniped with Fireballs, is to point out how an inexperienced BW can do so much damage simply based on having the right gear, and proper use of Combustion. Gear that can be easily gotten by one side, but not the other, thereby the mirrored side's class performs worse. This is an issue that HAS to be fixed if we are to ever balance this out completely. I'm showing this in real time during development to iron out what's considered the most OP and imbalancing at that exact moment, either due to damage coding or loot drops, and how other patches react to that as they get added on.

If it's bragging that requires people to notice something's wrong in the game, we may need to pay better attention as a whole, lol

I'm still calling BS on this. You trash talked non-stop for several games and you make a post showing off your numbers shortly after and I'm supposed to believe that your intention was to highlight server issues? L O L

Dude, stop. I'm in stitches here. You mentioned 0 issues in your op. Assuming you were trying to highlight server problems you are doing it in the most douchebag way possible. Congrats.

This was a bragging thread. Somebody called you out and you tries to spin it and you failed.

I have no doubt that you will "expose server issues" on your BW for as long as possible.

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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#24 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:48 am

SeaTerror wrote: I'm still calling BS on this. You trash talked non-stop for several games and you make a post showing off your numbers shortly after and I'm supposed to believe that your intention was to highlight server issues? L O L

Dude, stop. I'm in stitches here. You mentioned 0 issues in your op. Assuming you were trying to highlight server problems you are doing it in the most douchebag way possible. Congrats.

This was a bragging thread. Somebody called you out and you tries to spin it and you failed.

I have no doubt that you will "expose server issues" on your BW for as long as possible.
Well, it did get your attention, didn't it? I was expecting people to complain about it themselves in order to point it out, and this was a nice shove to start with. It did get you involved in a discussion about it, and the fact remains there is an obvious problem: your set bonus doesn't work, and gear needs to be balanced out in the future.

I certainly didn't fail, lest your eternal bitching about the same issue persists since you're taking the damage I do personally for not being able to compete, judging from your hostile reactions. Thusly you pointed out the flaws in your playstyle, and I figured out the underlying cause in the game's design and bugs. We've gotten so much further just from a little anger!

And I'd do this with any classs I die to a lot to see what makes it so much more powerful than me, to understand why and how it is that way. Most others would call hax while I simply want to prove it's possible, then prove how it's possible.

Also, I trash talk constantly. It's habitual. Doesn't mean I'm only out to provoke for the sake of it, since I can use it as a tool just as effectively.
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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#25 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:23 am

Well, it did get your attention, didn't it? I was expecting people to complain about it themselves in order to point it out, and this was a nice shove to start with. It did get you involved in a discussion about it, and the fact remains there is an obvious problem: your set bonus doesn't work, and gear needs to be balanced out in the future.

I certainly didn't fail, lest your eternal bitching about the same issue persists since you're taking the damage I do personally for not being able to compete, judging from your hostile reactions. Thusly you pointed out the flaws in your playstyle, and I figured out the underlying cause in the game's design and bugs. We've gotten so much further just from a little anger!

And I'd do this with any classs I die to a lot to see what makes it so much more powerful than me, to understand why and how it is that way. Most others would call hax while I simply want to prove it's possible, then prove how it's possible.

Also, I trash talk constantly. It's habitual. Doesn't mean I'm only out to provoke for the sake of it, since I can use it as a tool just as effectively.
Once again.Trying to spin the thread into something that it's clearly not.

You accuse me of being "mad" because I can't compete with BW numbers? I play a healer for order now, I couldn't care less, but, rationalize this however you want.

You heard it first here people: If you have a problem with obnoxious bragging threads, you need to "get gud"

Also: How do you infer anger from my posts? No, really, enlighten me please, because it looks like you are trying to project some onto me.

If you habitually trash talk, you might be the one with the problem here friendo.(Desperate cry for attention perhaps?). It sounds like you have some issues you need to work out. Maybe re-evaluate that thing you call a life because it's clear that you don't have one.

I honestly don't care if you grew up in a broken home or whatever your issue is, but, leave that garbage out of WAR. We have enough toxic players as it is.

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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#26 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:55 am

oh so you're harry. yeah you need to shut the zog up, ur becoming the new thrain

having 5 bws sat out of range in the wc all focusing and melting he same person is not worthy of trash talk YOUZ GITS
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Sulorie
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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#27 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:25 am

Azarael wrote:
There's no real motive to actually offload Combustion because the drawback isn't severe enough.
WHEN you get healed all the time. Actually you can die to dots with a healer nearby who is busy reviving lvl4 toons without bolster.
With good healers you have no reason, yes.


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Sorc can get the exact same stats. Deci set bonus is working.
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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#28 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:59 am

Fight IQ > Gear all day, every day. Stop worrying about gear so much! This was done without str jewelry's and cloaks on a class that can't stand at a comfortable distance facerolling aoe.

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Sulorie
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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#29 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:23 pm

I assume they lacked heal badly.
Dying is no option.

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Re: I've never played a Bright Wizard before, but...

Post#30 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:25 pm

Adell wrote:Fight IQ > Gear all day, every day. Stop worrying about gear so much! This was done without str jewelry's and cloaks on a class that can't stand at a comfortable distance facerolling aoe.

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Damn Adell beat my 29 DB record :D GJ

And yeah melee still so much better than ranged if played well, that BW/sorc AOE win in brainless pug situations.

P.S. Just an opinion of single target spankin BW. :shock:

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